Power amp for modelers. Alternatives. Class D vs Class AB?

[noizmsm]

Can we stop with the "Americans are awful" bullshit? @Chocol8 might be an abrasive asshole, but I taken comfort in knowing that like me, he'd be an abrasive asshole no matter where he's from!

Can you post later a sample of your Soldano with a free IR that I'll post here? I want to compare to the valeton gp200 soldano model. Do you have a guitar with humbucker?

 

[Chocol8]

The american menace strikes again

I am only a "menace" when people post complete BS. I don't care if you don't like Line 6, my newest Line 6 product is over 20 years old and I have no loyalty to any brand.

What does get my attention is when you or anyone posts something that is factually incorrect, and then you stand by that. From your other posts, it's gotten to be pretty clear that your knowledge and experience levels are quite low, especially compared to many who post here. If you want to learn this is a great place. If you want to keep posting strong takes that are blatantly false, well, I am not going to go out of my way to be friendly. Sorry.

 

[noizmsm]

I am only a "menace" when people post complete BS. I don't care if you don't like Line 6, my newest Line 6 product is over 20 years old and I have no loyalty to any brand.

What does get my attention is when you or anyone posts something that is factually incorrect, and then you stand by that. From your other posts, it's gotten to be pretty clear that your knowledge and experience levels are quite low, especially compared to many who post here. If you want to learn this is a great place. If you want to keep posting strong takes that are blatantly false, well, I am not going to go out of my way to be friendly. Sorry.

Ok

 

[bucephalus]

My use of the word arse should point you in the direction of my not being American.

The Valeton will sound worse though. Even compared to an arse.

 

[paisleywookiee]

My use of the word arse should point you in the direction of my not being American.

The Valeton will sound worse though. Even compared to an arse.

I like arse too, but I’m not British. I wish I was though, at this point.

 

[James Freeman]

Class D is perfectly fine for everything.

 

[bucephalus]

I like arse too, but I’m not British. I wish I was though, at this point.

Paisley is pretty British, we'd welcome you

 

[laxu]

Are the nanotubes engineered for them? I was thinking they were older military tech that happened to work well for guitar amp uses? I found them by searching: sub miniature vacuum tubes.

My understanding is that they've bought a huge pile of them, maybe the entire supply.

 

[laxu]

The secret sauce of Bluamp is the preamp, not sure how they get the high gain tones using solid state preamp tier pedal circuitry.

Again, that's just wrong. The poweramp matters, a lot. It's their own design rather than the typical ICEPower module crammed into a SD Powerstage and a lot of other products.

The genius of the unit as a full amp is that it takes a very different path to most other amps.

• It doesn't have a traditional tone stack. Whatever it uses is fixed, or depending on the channel you can afaik blend between different tone stacks.
• The EQ is more like a post-EQ. It doesn't interact, it has huge range. The EQ does not work if it is used as a poweramp though.
• The poweramp behavior changes depending on which channel is used, so it's clearly a factor in making it sound and behave like a tube amp.
• The preamp really does nail those classic Fender and Marshall tones IMO. I've put it against the best modelers - including the Fractal AM4 - and it has always been on par - even if it's not like it's going to be an exact match to anything but maybe Thomas Blug's own reference amps.
• It's actually rated as if it was a 100W tube amp, so it doesn't cap out at 100W like most solid-state amps. It's more like 100W of clean headroom and that seems to track pretty well when comparing its volume level against tube amps.

 

[Chocol8]

Again, that's just wrong.

He has a real knack for that.

 

[noizmsm]

If the nano tube is providing some type of power to achieve 100Watt the "longer than 30 years lifespan" is incorrect
You cant use a poweramp tube to some degree to power a device and expect it to last 30 years or more (as they claim)

 

[paisleywookiee]

If the nano tube is providing some type of power to achieve 100Watt the "longer than 30 years lifespan" is incorrect
You cant use a poweramp tube to some degree to power a device and expect it to last 30 years or more (as they claim)

Again, it isn't. It's not providing power. The 100w class D amp is.

 

[noizmsm]

Again, it isn't. It's not providing power. The 100w class D amp is.

The user above claimed the nano tube help to "not cap 100W for different impedance" like regular tube power amp devices/amps

 

[gearJunkie]

Regarding the nano tube...

The "OTK4" marking is a Soviet-era quality control stamp, and it consists of two parts:

• OTK (ОТК): This stands for Otdel Tekhnicheskogo Kontrola (Department of Technical Control). It indicates that the component passed inspection and met the required manufacturing standards.
• 4: This is typically the unique ID number of the inspector or the specific quality control station that approved the tube.

The info above was extracted from a Gemini analysis of the Bluamp nano tube image posted earlier in this thread, so it may or may not be accurate.

 

[noizmsm]

It's only one factory making these nanotubes. The exact model and why Bluamp use is confusing to me, I thought it was a power amp but since they claim it's going to last at least 30 years it cannot be a power tube in the sense we know.Dont know how it works electronically but it helps emulate the sag, instead of using AI or algorithm the tube itself adds sag. That's what I understood so far. According to the internet it adds coloration for the power section,
If it's assembled by hand in germany and the nano tube soldered by hand it could explain the high cost on the final product. Like the same capacitors and resistors soldered into a board in Marshall UK cost 3 times as much as in vietnam, the difference being british vs vietnamese hands.

 

[KHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!]

 

[laxu]

It's only one factory making these nanotubes. The exact model and why Bluamp use is confusing to me, I thought it was a power amp but since they claim it's going to last at least 30 years it cannot be a power tube in the sense we know.Dont know how it works electronically but it helps emulate the sag, instead of using AI or algorithm the tube itself adds sag. That's what I understood so far. According to the internet it adds coloration for the power section,
If it's assembled by hand in germany and the nano tube soldered by hand it could explain the high cost on the final product. Like the same capacitors and resistors soldered into a board in Marshall UK cost 3 times as much as in vietnam, the difference being british vs vietnamese hands.

There are no tube factories in Germany.

My understanding is that BluGuitar has bought a huge pile of these tubes possibly as new old stock. What happens when they run out? BluGuitar does not seem very concerned.

Stop obsessing over the damn tube, go try the amp and see if you like it.

 

[Chocol8]

If the nano tube is providing some type of power to achieve 100Watt the "longer than 30 years lifespan" is incorrect
You cant use a poweramp tube to some degree to power a device and expect it to last 30 years or more (as they claim)

 

[Chocol8]

It's only one factory making these nanotubes. The exact model and why Bluamp use is confusing to me, I thought it was a power amp but since they claim it's going to last at least 30 years it cannot be a power tube in the sense we know.Dont know how it works electronically but it helps emulate the sag, instead of using AI or algorithm the tube itself adds sag. That's what I understood so far. According to the internet it adds coloration for the power section,
If it's assembled by hand in germany and the nano tube soldered by hand it could explain the high cost on the final product. Like the same capacitors and resistors soldered into a board in Marshall UK cost 3 times as much as in vietnam, the difference being british vs vietnamese hands.

Why do you make up these crazy things? I don't understand the motivation.

 

[noizmsm]

There are no tube factories in Germany.

My understanding is that BluGuitar has bought a huge pile of these tubes possibly as new old stock. What happens when they run out? BluGuitar does not seem very concerned.

Stop obsessing over the damn tube, go try the amp and see if you like it.

It's a factory in Russia, the only one still in production of these tubes