NPD - Plethora X3

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Managed to sneak in a pedal purchase into the last few days of 2024!

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So honestly, I've had it all of 30 minutes. And here's my first impressions:

- Plugged it in, powered by my Zuma, and immediately was able to navigate the unit. Haven't watched any tutorial videos for ages on these, and haven't read the manual. Very easy to use.
- It is a bit more compact than I was expecting. About the same size as a Timeline, but not quite as deep.
- Sonically, it sounds GREAT. No dodgy impedance loading, and the noise floor is very acceptable.
- The screens are really nice to look at, and the tuner display is up there with the best of them.
- Switch on the left changes modes; edit or play. Switch on the right cycles through boards you've setup.
- From a 'Triple Delay' perspective, this is way better than their equivalent standalone pedal.
- The 3 mini knobs are a bit stiff. The bigger ones have a very nice and satisfying feel to them.
- Within seconds, I was able to start a new board, insert a flashback digital delay, and a hall of fame reverb... and get a huge sonic pad soundscape thing that on something like Quad Cortex or Helix, you'd have to properly go diving into the parameter sets to achieve. This took me no time at all, and I only had to tweak 5 or 6 parameters.
- It comes preloaded with TONS of toneprints. All of the Alter Ego stuff seems to be on there, and they sound really good.
- The pitch effects are not great. Suitable for a basic octave down effect, but anything like whammy or harmonisation, to me sounds shrill and a bit naff.
- You know what I love about the Flashback digital algorithm? When you tweak the time knob, you don't get jittery digital delay that struggles to properly update the read pointer, resulting in momentary but nasty artifacts. You also don't get pitchy squirrel artifacts. You get a really cool timestretch-esque sound. I want to try assigning that to one of the MASH switches.
- Modulation effects are GOOOOOOOD. Especially the Viscous Vibe, and usually I'm not that into those kinds of effects.
- Stereo processing sounds much better than some of the competition. For instance I compared it to an RV-5, and while the RV-5 is a fantastic reverb, it doesn't sound as good in stereo as many other pedals, including this one.

All in all, for £250, this is kind of a bargain of a pedal. Even if you just wanted a good option for a delay/reverb multi-effect, I think it is punching well above its weight. It doesn't do nice spillover like you'd get from a Meris pedal, and I haven't checked out the midi side of things yet, but to spend 30 minutes with it, and pretty much fully understand how it works, and to have found loads of great sounds just by flicking through boards, and creating one of my own... I'm impressed to be honest!
 
Managed to sneak in a pedal purchase into the last few days of 2024!

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So honestly, I've had it all of 30 minutes. And here's my first impressions:

- Plugged it in, powered by my Zuma, and immediately was able to navigate the unit. Haven't watched any tutorial videos for ages on these, and haven't read the manual. Very easy to use.
- It is a bit more compact than I was expecting. About the same size as a Timeline, but not quite as deep.
- Sonically, it sounds GREAT. No dodgy impedance loading, and the noise floor is very acceptable.
- The screens are really nice to look at, and the tuner display is up there with the best of them.
- Switch on the left changes modes; edit or play. Switch on the right cycles through boards you've setup.
- From a 'Triple Delay' perspective, this is way better than their equivalent standalone pedal.
- The 3 mini knobs are a bit stiff. The bigger ones have a very nice and satisfying feel to them.
- Within seconds, I was able to start a new board, insert a flashback digital delay, and a hall of fame reverb... and get a huge sonic pad soundscape thing that on something like Quad Cortex or Helix, you'd have to properly go diving into the parameter sets to achieve. This took me no time at all, and I only had to tweak 5 or 6 parameters.
- It comes preloaded with TONS of toneprints. All of the Alter Ego stuff seems to be on there, and they sound really good.
- The pitch effects are not great. Suitable for a basic octave down effect, but anything like whammy or harmonisation, to me sounds shrill and a bit naff.
- You know what I love about the Flashback digital algorithm? When you tweak the time knob, you don't get jittery digital delay that struggles to properly update the read pointer, resulting in momentary but nasty artifacts. You also don't get pitchy squirrel artifacts. You get a really cool timestretch-esque sound. I want to try assigning that to one of the MASH switches.
- Modulation effects are GOOOOOOOD. Especially the Viscous Vibe, and usually I'm not that into those kinds of effects.
- Stereo processing sounds much better than some of the competition. For instance I compared it to an RV-5, and while the RV-5 is a fantastic reverb, it doesn't sound as good in stereo as many other pedals, including this one.

All in all, for £250, this is kind of a bargain of a pedal. Even if you just wanted a good option for a delay/reverb multi-effect, I think it is punching well above its weight. It doesn't do nice spillover like you'd get from a Meris pedal, and I haven't checked out the midi side of things yet, but to spend 30 minutes with it, and pretty much fully understand how it works, and to have found loads of great sounds just by flicking through boards, and creating one of my own... I'm impressed to be honest!
Very nice. I was casually looking at this on SW yesterday. I'm still one of those guys that was/is very happy with the first gen HoF pedal, it's a very solid unit. Same goes for the smaller Alter Ego delay. I have PGS version and it sounds really great, should use it more.
People can say what they want about TC, but they've always been on the cutting edge.
 
I thought you had said TC Electronics was rubbish? :idk

Am I misremembering?

Congrats anywho.... new stuff is new stuff!! :beer
 
Seems like a nice pedal. That they waited this long to do a proper multi fx unit of existing effects is strange. At least, having all the flashback and HoF stuff in one unit is cool, they’re classics and quite good to. And looper… and tuner… and and and…

is the Trinity algos in there to? That would actually make me quite tempted.
 
So was this an attempt to minimize any potential VP4 GAS?
It's certainly a smaller package, yet a lot of features for the cash.
 
Something like this, paired with a "brain" pedal like a GT1000 core would be a great match. The GT would give you bank/patch selection, and this would give you easy editing and on/off switching.
 
So was this an attempt to minimize any potential VP4 GAS?
It's certainly a smaller package, yet a lot of features for the cash.
TBH, I'm not feeling very Fractal-y right now. I wasn't consciously thinking that this would stave off VP4 purchase, because I'd already sort of decided I wasn't going to get a VP4. Not until much much much further down the line anyway.

The last three or four practices, I've been using a really slimmed down selection of pedals. Haven't even touched my G3 for a month or so!

For me, I struggle to look at gear as merely tools. I do develop infatuations with them, and I oscillate between really wanting to use a thing, and really not wanting to use a thing. At the moment I'm in a trough when it comes to the Axe FX III. I'm sure I'll get over it.
 
For me, I struggle to look at gear as merely tools. I do develop infatuations with them, and I oscillate between really wanting to use a thing, and really not wanting to use a thing. At the moment I'm in a trough when it comes to the Axe FX III. I'm sure I'll get over it.
Finally someone that can describe how I feel about gear… spot on. Couldn’t explain it like that myself but yeah…
I kinda need to feel emotionally connected to pedals/gear to be able to create or be creative. The “tool” or utilitarian approach has never worked for me. Maybe that’s why I loved the Stomp but in the end couldn’t attach myself properly… one of the reasons anyway.
 
Something like this, paired with a "brain" pedal like a GT1000 core would be a great match. The GT would give you bank/patch selection, and this would give you easy editing and on/off switching.
Isn’t it something odd with GT and midi? I imagine that controlling the Plethora from the “brain” unit would be optimal. Switching presets on GT would switch presets on Plethora, or the other way around if so preferred. Helix things usually work really well regarding that.
 
TBH, I'm not feeling very Fractal-y right now. I wasn't consciously thinking that this would stave off VP4 purchase, because I'd already sort of decided I wasn't going to get a VP4. Not until much much much further down the line anyway.

The last three or four practices, I've been using a really slimmed down selection of pedals. Haven't even touched my G3 for a month or so!

For me, I struggle to look at gear as merely tools. I do develop infatuations with them, and I oscillate between really wanting to use a thing, and really not wanting to use a thing. At the moment I'm in a trough when it comes to the Axe FX III. I'm sure I'll get over it.
There's a lot to a Fractal product, especially the AxeIII I can imagine. You've been using them for years too, every now and then it's good to make a shift with what you're using to keep things interesting.
 
Finally someone that can describe how I feel about gear… spot on. Couldn’t explain it like that myself but yeah…
I kinda need to feel emotionally connected to pedals/gear to be able to create or be creative. The “tool” or utilitarian approach has never worked for me. Maybe that’s why I loved the Stomp but in the end couldn’t attach myself properly… one of the reasons anyway.
Some people see it as a "problem" - but when they've never written a lick of music that I ever gave a shit about, it is hard to take that "feedback" seriously.

I was balls deep in Helix-land from 2016 until 2022. That's a pretty good run to be honest! A lot of gear doesn't have that kind of staying power. But I just think I rinsed it for all of the tones I wanted, and now I'm kinda back on the hunt again.

There's a lot to a Fractal product, especially the AxeIII I can imagine. You've been using them for years too, every now and then it's good to make a shift with what you're using to keep things interesting.
Defo!!!
 
Right - poo things:

- Inserting an effect clears your current loop.
- You can't set delay sub divisions on the unit.
- No deep editing options. You basically get three parameters per effect, like you do on the actual toneprint pedals. This isn't completely poo. There are good things about it.
 
Right - poo things:

- Inserting an effect clears your current loop.
- You can't set delay sub divisions on the unit.
- No deep editing options. You basically get three parameters per effect, like you do on the actual toneprint pedals. This isn't completely poo. There are good things about it.
Does it have a Sentry model? I know it has a loop, so technically it could be used in 4cm with your amp head to really cut out the noise.
 
Does it have a Sentry model? I know it has a loop, so technically it could be used in 4cm with your amp head to really cut out the noise.
Yep it does! Works quite well. But I don't think the X3 does 4-cable-method. The X5 does.
 
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