New Marshall on the way

[la szum]

I actually miss the jcm900 I had. I'm not sure why I sold it back in the day and it was so long ago I don't even remember which version I had. All I can remember is it was a 50 watt 2x12.

I saw a JCM900 Dual Reverb half stack setup in the Supermarket parking lot tonight. For real!

I had to circle back and talk to the guy. Told him, "I just had to stop and ask what you are up
to. Don't see a Marshall Half Stack in a parking lot that often."

Found out he was waiting on a guy to come and trade him a Martin. Told me, "These are $4500!
brand new all day, Bud."

Yeah, no they're not, Bud.

Didn't even know they don't make them anymore. Must not have the Internet.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I saw a JCM900 Dual Reverb half stack setup in the Supermarket parking lot tonight. For real!

I had to circle back and talk to the guy. Told him, "I just had to stop and ask what you are up
to. Don't see a Marshall Half Stack in a parking lot that often."

Found out he was waiting on a guy to come and trade him a Martin. Told me, "These are $4500!
brand new all day, Bud."

Yeah, no they're not, Bud.

Didn't even know they don't make them anymore. Must not have the Internet.

I bought mine for £250 and gigged it from about 97-03. I genuinely don't remember why I sold it. It was 20 years before I bought another Marshall and was properly happy with an amp again cause I'm an idiot.

 

[la szum]

I need to go to town and see if he is still there. I do suspect he is still delusional about what
he actually had and its value.

 

[Whizzinby]

I need to go to town and see if he is still there. I do suspect he is still delusional about what
he actually had and its value.

I suppose if he is going by new value a 900DR and a 1960A/B are $4,500. Used, about tree fiddy.

 

[la szum]

"This is $4500 new. It's not new. I still want $4500 in value for it."

 

[la szum]

Man, is there an amp that holds its value as well as the JCM900. Literally have an hard time selling
at 1/3 of its new value. Yikes!

 

[Whizzinby]

Man, is there an amp that holds its value as well as the JCM900. Literally have an hard time selling
at 1/3 of its new value. Yikes!

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I’d love to find an SLX around $800

 

[hemmelight]

A local used gear shop near me has a few JCM900s. The Dual Reverb is like $400 more than the MkIII for some reason??
I guess the MkIII wasn't as popular as the Dual Reverb models so the DRs are "more desirable."

 

[Jambi]

JTM 45 Offset Studio

 

[MirrorProfiles]

well, it looks STUNNING. All bout dat coffin badge. and 10/10 knobs. Be curious to measure the voltages vs a JTM45. Looks like no Tube Rectifier?

 

[BahamaDada]

I guess I am just not anywhere near their "marketing target". I mean, from the "stealth pics" you could already see it wasn't a JVM Mk2, but Marshall really can't go forward it seems. Make something new. Just like the JVM when it came onto the market. Nope, lunchbox amps all day and bluetooth boxes. Maybe they lack someone with a vision for all those new stuff. I mean, I know who we could ask.

 

[laxu]

well, it looks STUNNING. All bout dat coffin badge and oxblood. and 10/10 knobs. Be curious to measure the voltages vs a JTM45. Looks like no Tube Rectifier?

Not having the classic Marshall knobs is a miss for me. Looks nice otherwise.

But that's about where it ends for me. To me this is just as stupid as a product as the SV20H. Depending on the model and era, the original JTM45 is 30-45W, with most reissues being 30W. Reducing that down to 20W does fuck all for volume, just allows them to use smaller transformers etc to make it smaller and cheaper. If you need to attenuate something like this to make it work for you, you might as well have the original.

The 5W mode is again going to be too loud for someone using this at home and considering, like the SV20H, the JTM is an amp that depends on powertube distortion for gain, it's not really practical. Small stage cranked? Maybe. Pedal platform? Sure.

Keeping all the crappy stuff like requiring patch leads to jumper the channels instead of some simple treble/jumped/normal 3-way switch seems silly in this day and age. I guess you can claim "vintage authentic" for that though.

I feel like Marshall is treading water and not doing anything to build amps better suited for todays players. Let's not forget that historically Marshall has put out a lot of unique stuff, from digital modeling (with questionable success) to Vintage Modern to something as complex as the JVM series. Sure, you can still buy some of those instead, but I find it really hard to figure out who this series is for.

To me it seems Marshall no longer has any competent amp designers left, just ones that are able to repackage something old.

 

[the-trooper]

Did you hear about the new Marshall?

 

[Whizzinby]

Looks really sharp and I suppose with this missing from their studio series it makes sense to add it. (Despite the drawbacks of the Studio series Laxu covered)

If I was looking for something like this it would be the Friedman Twin Sister all day though.

 

[TubeStack]

It looks cool but I have no interest in 20W amps. Would love to see some new 50 or 100W Marshall options.

(Although as I say that, I've pretty much perma-switched to Mesa for going on 7 years now, so it's not likely I'd actually buy one, but who knows.)

Great point that they really don't seem to have any forward-thinking designers.

 

[metropolis_4]

Not having the classic Marshall knobs is a miss for me. Looks nice otherwise.

But that's about where it ends for me. To me this is just as stupid as a product as the SV20H. Depending on the model and era, the original JTM45 is 30-45W, with most reissues being 30W. Reducing that down to 20W does fuck all for volume, just allows them to use smaller transformers etc to make it smaller and cheaper. If you need to attenuate something like this to make it work for you, you might as well have the original.

The 5W mode is again going to be too loud for someone using this at home and considering, like the SV20H, the JTM is an amp that depends on powertube distortion for gain, it's not really practical. Small stage cranked? Maybe. Pedal platform? Sure.

Keeping all the crappy stuff like requiring patch leads to jumper the channels instead of some simple treble/jumped/normal 3-way switch seems silly in this day and age. I guess you can claim "vintage authentic" for that though.

I feel like Marshall is treading water and not doing anything to build amps better suited for todays players. Let's not forget that historically Marshall has put out a lot of unique stuff, from digital modeling (with questionable success) to Vintage Modern to something as complex as the JVM series. Sure, you can still buy some of those instead, but I find it really hard to figure out who this series is for.

To me it seems Marshall no longer has any competent amp designers left, just ones that are able to repackage something old.

Size is the big thing here I think. I don’t need a head designed around the dimensions of a 4x12 cab. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve thought about buying a JTM but didn’t because I don’t want a head that can’t fit on a 1x12” cab

Also this is more related to the heads. What about the combos? A 20w 1x12 combo isn’t exactly revolutionary but it’s nice to see those options in a more reasonable form factor from Marshall.

But I don’t disagree with you that they’re not exactly brimming with fresh modern ideas over at Marshall

 

[metropolis_4]

It’s too bad Gibson didn’t buy Marshall instead of Zound. Then maybe I could finally get the crossover amp of my dreams - one that works like a Mesa but sounds like a Marshall

 

[BahamaDada]

Did you hear about the new Marshall?

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Uargh. This is everything I hate about modern guitar marketing. Bonus gaping adult man faces.

 

[paisleywookiee]

It looks cool but I have no interest in 20W amps. Would love to see some new 50 or 100W Marshall options.

Smallbox 50w amps would rule.

 

[Achilles]

Hard pass.