New Friedman IR-X preamp

It does a thing. It responds to volume knob. It has moderate crunchy gain level. A passive eq. Its bare bones. I think you might get better result with the Friedman model in the FM9, but I haven't used the fractal models so maybe the pedal has a vibe you aren't getting.

But I'm not conviced it has any mojo. A Jims800 pedal might work just as well.
The Dirty Shirley models in the FM9 sound decent but they honestly do not sound like the amp to me. I have a Twin Sister as well as the IR-D. This amp is one of my favorite amps ever. It takes a lot of tweaking on the FM9 models to get in the ballpark of the amp and neither of the models really get there for me.

I'm starting to think the one I have is defective.

SD-1 into Ironheart sounds brilliant. Just using SD-1 into IR-X channel 2, without the boost, and with just moderate noon settings on the SD-1, it sounds like the circuit is overloading, like it can't handle the level or something. Sounds like complete ass. Like dull muted clipping.

With the IRX channel 2 w/ boost on, the SD1 plays well enough but still doesn't sound good. Thats why I was shocked it sounded like ass with the SD-1 three weeks ago. I've never heard an amp sound like ass with the sd1. Like it can't handle the level coming from the SD-1, but when I lower the volume output from the sd-1, it starts to sound anemic.

Why does this sound like ass?? The sd-1 is causing some nasty dark clipping like the circuit can't handle it. The harder I play, the worse it sounds like ass. When I lower the volume on the sd-1 it sounds anemic. The send going directly to my amps return.

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Make sure you hook the IR-X up to a computer and check to ensure the software is updated. When the IR-D shipped there were a bunch of them that came out with an earlier version of the software on them and many people that bought them hated them. There were threads going around on several forums about making sure to update the software. The update was a huge difference in sound.
 

Yeah, I updated it when I first got it. What is weird is that it sounds like its getting choked. When the gain is low (per the pic above) and the SD1 is just adding a little bit of drive, it gets the dark and nasty overloaded sound. If I turn up the gain on the Friedman, it seems to accept the gain from the SD1 a little better, but the lower mids still sound like they are farting a bit. And when the gain is at that level, I'm getting microphonics when played to my amp's return.

Which is a shame because at that level of gain it sounds really good, it just can't seem to handle it.

So here is my current thinking:

1) The darkness i originally complained about is a DI problem that has to do with the low pass in the cab section. It may be that the original version of the fw didn't have this problem. It sounds sufficiently bright when used as a preamp into my amp's return. Still smooth on top, but not overly dark. The DI output needs lots of EQ help.

2) There are enough oddities with gain staging and microphonics that there might be a bad tube with this one or other problem. It doesn't seem completely broken, but also it doesn't seem completely right.

3) It may be that they made the DI output really dark to mask any microphonics issues. When I turn up the treble with the SD1 engaged into my amps return, it squeals. I didnt have this problem with the DI ouput direct to my interface.
I haven't experienced any of this with the Friedman pedals. I currently have the IR-D but I've also had the X and J briefly. I actually kept the IR-D because it's the darkest of the 3, the X and J are brighter.

It sounds like your unit is defective or needs new tubes. Consider taking 2 12ax7s from another amp and trying them in it to see if it improves anything.

But there's definitely something wrong, because these results are completely atypical for these units.
 
Yeah, I updated it when I first got it. What is weird is that it sounds like its getting choked. When the gain is low (per the pic above) and the SD1 is just adding a little bit of drive, it gets the dark and nasty overloaded sound. If I turn up the gain on the Friedman, it seems to accept the gain from the SD1 a little better, but the lower mids still sound like they are farting a bit. And when the gain is at that level, I'm getting microphonics when played to my amp's return.

Which is a shame because at that level of gain it sounds really good, it just can't seem to handle it.

So here is my current thinking:

1) The darkness i originally complained about is a DI problem that has to do with the low pass in the cab section. It may be that the original version of the fw didn't have this problem. It sounds sufficiently bright when used as a preamp into my amp's return. Still smooth on top, but not overly dark. The DI output needs lots of EQ help.

2) There are enough oddities with gain staging and microphonics that there might be a bad tube with this one or other problem. It doesn't seem completely broken, but also it doesn't seem completely right.

3) It may be that they made the DI output really dark to mask any microphonics issues. When I turn up the treble with the SD1 engaged into my amps return, it squeals. I didnt have this problem with the DI ouput direct to my interface.

I would reach out to Dave Friedman and see if he can help you out. He answers the emails from his company and is a pretty accessible guy.
 
I would reach out to Dave Friedman and see if he can help you out. He answers the emails from his company and is a pretty accessible guy.
My experience as well. Mr. Friedman has been quite responsive to me as I asked questions about tone quests and his products. Very unexpected and nice. The guy is certainly committed.
 
What happened to change your mind on these? I remember a few pages back you were really upset and returning the IR-X.

I think its a good pedal for the right person.
For me, having a product not meet my needs or expectations reflects nothing upon the individual engineering the product being evaluated. I am hopeful that I just purchased the incorrect offering. My next try, the IR-J arrives next Thursday and I’m extremely happy and optimistic about trying it. I’ve found that most product lines have hits and misses for me. Doesn’t tame the pursuit of tone one bit. Hearing others wax on about items not for me (IR-D and one gentleman in particular) gives me hope. It is an ongoing educational process for me that I hope I never lose passion for. When something lands and sticks for me it’s so very gratifying. Chellee pedals is an example of an old dog learning new tricks. Might not be right for everyone but for me the discovery is invaluable. It leads to me doing more of what I love.
 
Thats a good attitude.

I remember you had a dislike of the low pass filter on DI output. I suspect it will be the same on the IR-J.

The preamp output didn't have any unexpected darkness though, depite the graphs the other fella posted.

I think I would like the IR-J more too because the top is not as smoothed. But I'm really into high gain shred so I'm trying to score a 5150 now.

Good luck.
Best of luck.
 
Finally did the IRX firmware update.

I hadn’t played it for a while cause I had to pack up for a move, but is it just my imagination or does Ch1 get boxy and dark when pushing the gain past 12 o’clock, after the update?

I know the bright cap is defeated when cranking the gain but I don’t remember Ch1 getting dark and mushy when cranked prior to the update.

The good news is that Ch1 does seem to sound fuller, generally better, post update, but it’s sort of unusable for me with the gain past noon now, cause how dark it gets.

Ch 2 seems to have gotten more girth and sounds less compressed and more harmonically rich, I want to say. So yeah, improved for sure, to my ears.

The new OH IRs are great and I favor them now mostly. I can’t remember which ones I ended up choosing.

Recording wise I got great edge of break up and gain tones.

I did use my RME Babyface interface EQ to do a high pass filter, and to bump 500hz and 2.3khz.

I then killed the RME EQ, but plugged the IRX into a JHS color box v2 that I then plugged into the Babyface. I used the Colour Box parametric EQ and a little bit of step gain, and a bit of Hi Pass filter.

This produced the best DI recorded tones I’ve ever obtained, killer clean-ish to light gain and rhythm crunch to high gain tones. I had my Tech21 Leeds pedal out and that kicked the IRX into all sorts of face melting hot rod Plexi tones with the IRX on Ch2. Kinda stunning really.

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Next I decided to see if I can build an IRX board to use with my Katana 100w combo (in the effects return), just for kicks. I normally use a Deluxe Reverb clone (Vintage Sound 22) with a brown face mod on the normal channel, with a Marshall Governor and JRocket Rockaway and a variety of fuzzes.

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Both Ch 1 and 2 sound killer through the Katana Return. I’m stunned again.

I did use my EQ200 for pre gain EQ, and also for post gain EQ that I placed post IRX Send.

The post gain EQ ended up pretty crucial as I really needed to do a healthy low cut, and cut a tad at 500hz, and bump a tiny bit at 1 and 2khz. I ended up doing a small cut at 4khz too.
A lot of this will depend on the room of course, but it seems like the IRX definitely benefits from judicious EQ’ing, just like most pieces of audio gear.

Anyway, I could totally see playing live with this set up. I got better tones with this then with my current tube amp rig, and better tones than I remember getting with my old 78 JMP 100watt and 81 JCM 800.

The IRX CH1 is still way to dark and muddy with the gain past noon, but the setting you see gives a great edge of breakup tone to light gain, and cleanish depending on the pickup and guitar volume knob position, and great gain tones from my pedals, keeping the Ch1 gain at noon.

With Ch2 I kept the gain low for a great rhythm crunch and got every shade of gain that I needed with the pedals on the board. No modern metal tones for me, but definitely face melting hot rod Marshall tones. Killer heavy Godzilla monster fuzz tones too.
I’m super pleased 🍾
 
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Disclaimer: I have NEVER done this solo 100%, and this was the first time I had played it at ALL, in the last 4 years or so.

As someone who has moved on from the IR-X rig I used to have, I did NOT need to see/hear this (from myself). It sounds pretty dang good:


Great tone! Love and want that CE.
 
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