Neural DSP - new teaser (Rabea X, nvm)

[holoholo]

if you are perhaps a Mayer fan and own a Fractal. Helix. Kemper, QC, NANO, HX effects, Hotone, ZOOM, Sonicake, Headrest, Kemper player I know a guy that can fix you right up

I just updated my tone matches please buy my presets again. For the low price of $120 a bundle.

 

[Stone]

Well does it matter what and how much they add isn't there enough stuff on their cloud?
Gets to a point where there already too much, I prefer QoL and performance updates as opposed to adding more stuffs

 

[spawnofthesith]

Y’all got Ohio rizz

 

[sashimi]

No cap

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Their logic escapes me still. It was years a go they couldn’t figure out how, (or appreciate the need?) to give us a simple folder system to organize the captures on the QC.
After all this time I thought surely they have improved their Cloud and management software.

So I got a Nano Cortex on a whim.
Nope, still no way to keep track of it. And no tap tempo sync?!? Pitch block but no drive block? How do you spell WTF?! in Finnish?

But I think I’ll keep the Nano around for awhile. Like the QC it is a sound concept and also just like with the QC I’ll sell the Nano once I get enough content on it to make using it a pain.
Hmm, maybe that’s why they limited the number of captures, presets and cabs it can hold? lol some kind of twisted logic

 

[GTR37]

 

[Alex Kenivel]

let me guess .... Moon??

FTFY. Can you even read pictures?

 

[paisleywookiee]

if you are perhaps a Mayer fan and own a Fractal. Helix. Kemper, QC, NANO, HX effects, Hotone, ZOOM, Sonicake, Headrest, Kemper player I know a guy that can fix you right up

I hate John Mayer almost as much as I hate John Mayer fanboys.

 

[Orvillain]

Minge.

 

[mbenigni]

mad that people will be watching QVC style gear infomercials on youtube all day and then get annoyed with marketing.

I find NDSP fairly easy to ignore, it’s only there if you go looking for it

Truth. I wouldn’t know any of this stuff existed if TGF didn’t reliably take the ball and run with it.

Then again, I do live under a rock for the most part…

 

[Los-D]

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[timbuck3]

Neural DSP’s Doug Castro and Francisco Cresp on the Nano Cortex, and ‘those’ marketing videos

Neural DSP’s founders talk distilling the Quad Cortex into a smaller form-factor – the Nano Cortex, and controversial guitar marketing

guitar.com

 

[nightlight]

Whatever it is, I hope this means that they are starting to update the unit at a faster pace, since the last update was less than a month ago.

In all fairness, their launch was around Covid-19, so I can sympathise if schedules got messed up. I know that a lot of users were pissed about that, and I kind of jumped in just when things got moving, so my experience is hardly representative of those who have had to suffer with a unit that wasn't completely finished out of the door.

Still, Fractal Audio and Kemper have been doing major improvements to the unit in recent months (and years), so Neural really needs to emulate that kind of customer-centricity.

In particular, while I think this might just be another PCOM release, I'll also be looking to see whether more features are added to the unit, as that is equally important at this juncture, imho.

I have bought five plugins from them, on top of the unit. Kind of feel a bit silly, actually. Despite that, PCOM compatibility can wait, it would be far better if they improve the algorithms for the delay and the reverb for a start.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Is that Uranus ?

No, a picture of Fortin Testicle. Infected testicle.

 

[jellodog]

it would be far better if they improve the algorithms for the delay and the reverb for a start.

What do you feel is wrong with the delay algorithm? Seems perfectly usable to me.

I like it. But maybe my expectations for this small box were less from the get go (?)

 

[MirrorProfiles]

when people talk about having a "container" to mix and match different parts of NDSP plugins, is there really that much to gain?

For instance, when I use Helix, I'm regularly using different plugins either side of it - sometimes because there's a specific effect I'm looking for that isn't in their software, and partly because plugins offer the freedom to combine all of your favourites. It's rare that one plugin just happens to have my favourite boost, compressor, delay, reverb, amp sim, cab engine etc.

While on the surface I can see why it seems like a good idea, I still feel like I'd just end up using other plugins too and the net benefit would end up being very small. I don't think I've ever wanted to use an NDSP plugin for JUST the delay or reverbs, or boost pedals - for delays and reverbs there is just so much choice of insanely high quality stuff out there that I never use the built in ones. The pedals are fine, but there are so many tubescreamers and rat's and big muff plugins out there that I'm not really fussed which I use. There are some very specific FX in neural plugins like the octave bits in Gojira or the synth in Rabbea but it's easy enough just to load that exact plugin if that sound is called for. I don't mind stacking 2 or more NDSP plugins together if need be - I don't think I've ever been in a situation where more than 2 was necessary.

There are other plugins that do the container thing and generally they become a bit shit in other ways - automation, MIDI control, GUI, licensing, speed all take a bit of a hit. Softube Amp Room or Amplitude are good examples of the trade offs.

TLDR; plugins are already a kind of container that allow you to mix and match WAY more freely with all your favourite stuff.

 

[BenIfin]

Dark side of the moon ... Hiwatt ?

 

[laxu]

Neural DSP’s Doug Castro and Francisco Cresp on the Nano Cortex, and ‘those’ marketing videos

Neural DSP’s founders talk distilling the Quad Cortex into a smaller form-factor – the Nano Cortex, and controversial guitar marketing

guitar.com

My takeaway from this interview is that NeuralDSP is still full of shit in so many ways.

I can't help but feel the Nano Cortex is basically the NAM plugin UI stuffed into a pedal, rather than the "QC distilled to its essence" that they try to say it is in the interview. If it was a mini-QC it would have all the fx available from the bigger unit rather than...one of each category and no drives.

If it was more like the Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp, I would have bought one. That thing, despite its own flaws, makes the Nano Cortex and Kemper Player feel like straight up dated products to release in the past few years.

 

[laxu]

when people talk about having a "container" to mix and match different parts of NDSP plugins, is there really that much to gain?

Pretty simple. If you like bits A and B from plugin X and Y, you now have to run both plugins to get those. I'd rather have something where you can e.g use all the cab sims from each plugin, all the fx etc. Plus you can work with one set of presets instead of separate presets for every plugin.

I think most plugin makers can benefit from something like this when their catalog of things-that-do-similar-things grows big enough.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

If you like bits A and B from plugin X and Y, you now have to run both plugins to get those. I'd rather have something where you can e.g use all the cab sims from each plugin, all the fx etc. Plus you can work with one set of presets instead of separate presets for every plugin

So the issue is having to disable sections of other plugins, and then having to save presets in a DAW rather than the plugin directly?

It’s probably because I’m always mixing and matching different brands of plugins anyway, but isn’t that far superior than being locked into one brand? If the reverb in NDSP plugin A isn’t cutting it, I’d rather just go to exactly the reverb I want to use rather than picking from smaller pool.

I reckon I could build a preset on a track with 3 NDSP instances faster than I could do using 1 instance of Amplitube. But even better is mixing and matching the best aspects from different brands, it’s one of the strongest appeals of plugins over dedicated HW in the first place.