Line 6 HX Bedroom™ (HX Stomp Successor) Speculation Thread

[norminal]

With the announcement of the new Helix Stadium lineup, it seems inevitable that Line 6 will release a successor to the beloved HX Stomp. Let’s speculate on what features might trickle down to the HX Stomp successor (dare we call it the HX Bedroom™?) and discuss what improvements you’d love to see!

Speculation:

Touchscreen? Doubt it:

• The Helix Stadium’s touchscreen UI would be tough to scale down to the HX Stomp’s compact chassis without creating an entirely new interface. Line 6 will already be managing two UIs.

• They’ve retained the classic UI (with upgrades) alongside the touchscreen UI, suggesting they might stick with a similar interface, enhanced with an improved “joystick” and additional lower knobs.

Footprint:

• It’ll likely stay a 3 or 8 footswitch model for continuity.

• Expect a larger, possibly wider screen to support additional knobs/buttons and the enhanced classic UI.

Performance:

• More processing power for additional blocks (I would love at least 10) and expanded routing options.

Features:

• The “Flux” feature from the HX One will likely be included, along with the new Agoura modeling and a Proxy “player” for added versatility.

I/O:

• Upgraded I/O: USB-C, improved connectivity, and possibly Bluetooth/WiFi for wireless editing on mobile devices.

What features do you think will make it into the HX Stomp successor? What improvements are you hoping for? Share your thoughts!

 

[Mongillo19]

It's essentially been confirmed by Bishop on Reddit. Mind you I'm probably exaggerating but when people would ask he would constantly say the Stomp is one of the greatest selling L6 units and would provide links stating that claim. Also saying that's as much as he can provide. It's just a matter of when

 

[GTR37]

With the announcement of the new Helix Stadium lineup, it seems inevitable that Line 6 will release a successor to the beloved HX Stomp. Let’s speculate on what features might trickle down to the HX Stomp successor (dare we call it the HX Bedroom™?) and discuss what improvements you’d love to see!

Speculation:

Touchscreen? Doubt it:

• The Helix Stadium’s touchscreen UI would be tough to scale down to the HX Stomp’s compact chassis without creating an entirely new interface. Line 6 will already be managing two UIs.

• They’ve retained the classic UI (with upgrades) alongside the touchscreen UI, suggesting they might stick with a similar interface, enhanced with an improved “joystick” and additional lower knobs.

Footprint:

• It’ll likely stay a 3 or 8 footswitch model for continuity.

• Expect a larger, possibly wider screen to support additional knobs/buttons and the enhanced classic UI.

Performance:

• More processing power for additional blocks (I would love at least 10) and expanded routing options.

Features:

• The “Flux” feature from the HX One will likely be included, along with the new Agoura modeling and a Proxy “player” for added versatility.

I/O:

• Upgraded I/O: USB-C, improved connectivity, and possibly Bluetooth/WiFi for wireless editing on mobile devices.

What features do you think will make it into the HX Stomp successor? What improvements are you hoping for? Share your thoughts!

they could totally do the same touchscreen just not the 8' more likely a 5" just look at the Hotone stomp 3 buttons, 3 encoders they would have to lose some I/O for sure and probably use just one of the new processor chips instead of 2 , I am sure they have already thought it out

 

[ian_dissonance]

A tiny ass box with four footswitch/encoders and scribble strips, preset name display and a volume knob. Bunch of I/O, all of the deep control via app.

 

[Sleezy E]

Stomp was what... 3 yrs after the floor?

Gonna be a bit gents... and to the size... the OG was supposed to easily sit on a pedal board, I would expect the same from mk2

 

[KingsXJJ]

they could totally do the same touchscreen just not the 8' more likely a 5" just look at the Hotone stomp 3 buttons, 3 encoders they would have to lose some I/O for sure and probably use just one of the new processor chips instead of 2 , I am sure they have already thought it out

I agree with the Hotone as an example of how they might deliver a touch screen. My Stage’s touchscreen is really nice and from what I hear, @laxu digs his Stomp’s.

 

[KingsXJJ]

With the announcement of the new Helix Stadium lineup, it seems inevitable that Line 6 will release a successor to the beloved HX Stomp. Let’s speculate on what features might trickle down to the HX Stomp successor (dare we call it the HX Bedroom™?) and discuss what improvements you’d love to see!

Speculation:

Touchscreen? Doubt it:

• The Helix Stadium’s touchscreen UI would be tough to scale down to the HX Stomp’s compact chassis without creating an entirely new interface. Line 6 will already be managing two UIs.

• They’ve retained the classic UI (with upgrades) alongside the touchscreen UI, suggesting they might stick with a similar interface, enhanced with an improved “joystick” and additional lower knobs.

Footprint:

• It’ll likely stay a 3 or 8 footswitch model for continuity.

• Expect a larger, possibly wider screen to support additional knobs/buttons and the enhanced classic UI.

Performance:

• More processing power for additional blocks (I would love at least 10) and expanded routing options.

Features:

• The “Flux” feature from the HX One will likely be included, along with the new Agoura modeling and a Proxy “player” for added versatility.

I/O:

• Upgraded I/O: USB-C, improved connectivity, and possibly Bluetooth/WiFi for wireless editing on mobile devices.

What features do you think will make it into the HX Stomp successor? What improvements are you hoping for? Share your thoughts!

Great idea for a separate thread!

 

[Southpaw-DD]

Stadium Zero or bust for me!

• DSP and I/O box with the screen and controls only (no footswitches)
• Port for some sort of external floorboard option or make it the same as the eventual rack model controller, if that is later.
• Remove the live performance expansion features if it doesn't fit the product, needed to differentiate the price, etc.
• Desktop friendly - like a stand made for it, kickstand, etc.

Well, basically this is approaching a POD bean. Unlikely this would happen due to them killing those off because of sales numbers (speculation or recalling from very old forum posts by L6).

 

[synthpenguin]

Maybe wishful thinking, but I’d love digital audio I/O that isn’t USB on this potential smaller unit.

S/PDIF i/o alone would be cool, but I’d be very happy if it had this Nexus port, as being able to expand it with those accessories would be great…and that could really open the door to easily linking multiple units to expand processing power without worrying about introducing increased latency or noise.

So e.g. you could expand the big unit with a small unit that you have running another amp or resource intensive effects like polyphonic pitch effects, or you could link two smaller units to have more processing power in a smaller footprint or lain out more ergonomically within a traditional pedalboard.

I don’t really expect any of this, but I’m hoping that their enthusiasm for Nexus and promise of further expansion accessories after the Expand D10 will make it a possibility.

 

[the swede]

oooooh "bedroom" club!!! i wanna hang with you all (3 times stomp owner and all)


My take: Do fucking not make it bigger. Its the best guitar pedal ever made, it belongs with pedals, make sure all people get that next time (people became confused about what Stomp was meant to be), make the ultimate pedalboard modeler, more DSP, free the looper™, 3 switches IS perfectly fine, let people buy any kind of third party switchamaboobs as last time.... its up to them. bigger display.

bigger display

bigger display


honestly... they could still milk the HX Stomp for several more year. Its still a very powerfull "guitar pedal".

 

[Sascha Franck]

I for one would like to see:

- 4 switches instead of 3. Possibly the single most relevant limitation I keep running into with the Stomp.
- Along with those, as on the big boys: More switch assignment pages. That'd be fantastic for me.
- 4 encoders instead of 3. Ideally 5, but 4 could be fine as long as the parameter order is adressed.
- More DSP power. I'm not saying it needs to be 50% of the fuil units, but I always wished it was offering what one path of the full unit would allow for. If they manage to make it so I can slap just a little bit of extra stuff in, I'd be fine.
- More blocks. 10-12 would be great already for my typical use case, 16 would be fantastic. I'm always running short of a block or three, especially as you need to use a block for the loops.
- Touchscreen. Wouldn't have to be anything as complexed as on the full scale units, just something to select and move things around and type in some stuff. Any kinda typical smartphone screen would likely be sufficient.
- As a semi-decent alternative to the touchscreen: a mobile editor. Along with multiple switch assignment pages, a touchscreen possibly wouldn't be missed much.

In a nutshell, I'd basically like a kind of 1/2 full deal with some stuff stripped out. What I don't think it needs:
- The entire showcase thing.
- The entire swiping/morphing stuff (which would require a larger screen anyway).

Needless to say, this would be bigger than the OG Stomp. If they wanted to keep it as small as is, they should possibly think about releasing their own little switch expansion unit, which could then have capacitive switches and bi-directional communication. I'd actually bought something like that for the OG Stomp in a hearbeat.

 

[2dor]

From a Bedroom™ unit, I'd want it to clean up my room, tuck me in & read me a story

 

[laxu]

I agree with the Hotone as an example of how they might deliver a touch screen. My Stage’s touchscreen is really nice and from what I hear, @laxu digs his Stomp’s.

Yeah you can scale the 8" screen of the Helix Stadium down to probably as small as the Hotone A2 Stomp's if needed.

But I'd rather see a product with 4 footswitches and 4-5 encoders, even if that pushes it closer to Fractal VP4 size. That would likely fit e.g a 5" touchscreen like on the A2 Stage.

For DSP capability, if it can fit about 12 blocks like the Ampero 2, that would be more than enough.

 

[norminal]

It's essentially been confirmed by Bishop on Reddit… It's just a matter of when

Agreed. It could be a few years.

they could totally do the same touchscreen just not the 8' more likely a 5" just look at the Hotone stomp 3 buttons, 3 encoders they would have to lose some I/O for sure and probably use just one of the new processor chips instead of 2 , I am sure they have already thought it out

It’s definitely doable. But at the same time, I could see them not doing it as well.

A tiny ass box with four footswitch/encoders and scribble strips, preset name display and a volume knob. Bunch of I/O, all of the deep control via app.

I could get on with that. Line6 has proven to support a product well into its obsolescence, so app support would be expected.

Gonna be a bit gents... and to the size... the OG was supposed to easily sit on a pedal board, I would expect the same from mk2

My thoughts as well.

I agree with the Hotone as an example of how they might deliver a touch screen. My Stage’s touchscreen is really nice and from what I hear, @laxu digs his Stomp’s.

It’s amazing what’s coming out of China for the price. Would Line6 leverage their manufacturing to make the Stomp into something of that caliber? Maybe go for that FM3 market share?

Great idea for a separate thread!

Thanks bruh!

Stadium Zero or bust for me!

• DSP and I/O box with the screen and controls only (no footswitches)
• Port for some sort of external floorboard option or make it the same as the eventual rack model controller, if that is later.
• Remove the live performance expansion features if it doesn't fit the product, needed to differentiate the price, etc.
• Desktop friendly - like a stand made for it, kickstand, etc.

Well, basically this is approaching a POD bean. Unlikely this would happen due to them killing those off because of sales numbers (speculation or recalling from very old forum posts by L6).

That would be cool. It would definitely make it an even better studio tool.

Maybe wishful thinking, but I’d love digital audio I/O that isn’t USB on this potential smaller unit.

S/PDIF i/o alone would be cool, but I’d be very happy if it had this Nexus port,

I don’t really expect any of this, but I’m hoping that their enthusiasm for Nexus and promise of further expansion accessories after the Expand D10 will make it a possibility.

I think Eric mentioned the Expand D10 supporting digital? If so, a Nexus port would make sense for more expandability.

oooooh "bedroom" club!!! i wanna hang with you all (3 times stomp owner and all)

My take: Do fucking not make it bigger. Its the best guitar pedal ever made, it belongs with pedals, make sure all people get that next time (people became confused about what Stomp was meant to be), make the ultimate pedalboard modeler, more DSP, free the looper™, 3 switches IS perfectly fine, let people buy any kind of third party switchamaboobs as last time.... its up to them. bigger display.

bigger display

bigger display


honestly... they could still milk the HX Stomp for several more year. Its still a very powerfull "guitar pedal".

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Helix Stadium Bedroom aka „The Groupie Edition“

 

[Sascha Franck]

Oh fwiw, as on the full units: Multiple split paths.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Not averse to fucking the big touchscreen off entirely and relying a little more on a phone/ipad to do any of the fancy stuff. A modern version of the existing screen would be fine for me, what with wifi and bluetooth etc. Or some kind of novel approach where there’s plenty of visual feedback on the device.

IMO keeping the cost and size down should be what distinguishes the stomp and the user will expect to make some concessions.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Btw, another one, possibly great for the larger units as well, but the Stomp would likely profit the most: I would love a 2-switch looper that is an *exact* copy of the looper in the Zoom G3. For occasional looping, that one is just absolutely perfect (and I rarely ever say anything like that). It's so good that I carry the damn thing with me even if all I need is that very looper. I'd describe the functionality, in case anyone's interested.

Edit: It'd be sufficient if the same functional controls were available via Control Center. With the actual looper, they're not.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I’d ALMOST take the same stomp we have now but with:

- modern DSP chips, latest sounds and processing
- an extra footswitch
- ethernet I/O expandability (this would be the real winner for a modular setup)
- wifi/bluetooth/USB3/USB-A
- latest converters, improved SNR etc

EDIT: Thinking more about it, doing the bulk of preset adjustments on a computer/handheld device wirelessly is going to do all the heavy lifting. Could almost be happy with something DL4 sized/shaped or like a gig rig switcher layout+size. Would be a brave move but maybe it's possible to get rid of the screen and switches all together. MAYBE poo switches that could be assigned via an editor that in different modes can control different parameters for live use/realtime control?

Would love to see things really embrace the modular concept so users can build what they need, and move things out of the way (as opposed to having larger bulkier units with redundant features)

 

[Chocol8]

With BT and wifi on the larger units, I would not be surprised to see a compact unit with no built in screen and maybe no encoders. Just foot switches, scribble strips, and whatever IO they can fit in. That may not be the "Stomp" but I bet it is something they will at least explore.