Levels hitting the amp (in dBu) when reamping and/or capturing

[Richard_G]

In my own setup I'm going from the line out of a Motu M4 into a Lehle P-Split III, giving a dBU level of 14,8 dBu when following the simple @MirrorProfiles procedure in the linked video. I'm a bit worried this is too hot for running into pedals and or amps for reamping and/or capturing? But then again; at what level is the actual DI and/or training file ending up at...

Absolutely fine to do that, and honestly, I’d recommend using a level like that (slightly louder than what your guitar outputs) so that the training has examples of the amp being pushed hard. This’ll make it more accurate in more situations (like using different guitars or boosting with a pedal). FWIW, a TC integrated preamp (or peppers dirty tree) adds over 30dB of level. So I wouldn’t worry about hitting an amp 5-10dB higher than a pickup might output.

Much better to train with a loud signal, rather than too weak. The reamp file will have a wide range of dynamics already - the louder you can get it will give the model more information to train from.

Thanks - I really appreciate the advice!

I’ll probably leave the reamping chain as-is when making NAM captures.

But what about Tonex captures? How do you guys reconcile your usual reamp setup with Tonex’s capture guidelines? Do you leave everything as-is, or do you make adjustments to follow their recommendations during the process?

I guess I'm mostly wondering about the return level…

 

[Sascha Franck]

I guess I'm mostly wondering about the return level…

Isn't that only responsible for the final level of the capture?

 

[Richard_G]

And also:

I might be missing something, but I don’t really understand how adjusting the guitar input (Input 2 of my audio interface in my setup) affects the Tonex capturing process. The training signal is sent from a line out of my audio interface, through the reamp box to the device being captured, and then (via DI) into Input 1 of the interface.

I don’t really see how the gain on Input 2 affects anything—aside from the comparison stage during the process. Is that its' only purpose?

 

[Richard_G]

Isn't that only responsible for the final level of the capture?

Perhaps? But why would you change that from your normal reamp chain setup? (Perhaps the signal-to-noise ratio during capturing is an argument?)

 

[Sascha Franck]

(Perhaps the signal-to-noice ratio during capturing is an argument?)

That's what I would imagine.

 

[2dor]

Thanks - I really appreciate the advice!

I’ll probably leave the reamping chain as-is when making NAM captures.

But what about Tonex captures? How do you guys reconcile your usual reamp setup with Tonex’s capture guidelines? Do you leave everything as-is, or do you make adjustments to follow their recommendations during the process?

I guess I'm mostly wondering about the return level…

I leave the chain as I calibrated it for NAM & ignore ToneX guidelines. I got the best results this way.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I leave the chain as I calibrated it for NAM & ignore ToneX guidelines. I got the best results this way.

This is the way