Kemper Profiler MK 2

[dws2384]

FYI, Kemper did answer it, and we'll probably see that answer repeated again in the next few days. They said there are "technical reasons" why V2 profiling won't run on a Mk1.

That doesn't really explain anything, but that's the closest to an answer that anybody is likely to get.

Oh I know they said that but they’ve never give any context, which if they did, would shut everyone up and put it to rest.

If MK1 is perfectly cable of playing the MK2 files in full rez, but they are just limiting it in software to force upgrades, well I guess that’s still a ‘technical reason’ but also BS.

Many have suspected this for a while and the cab resonance ‘glitch’ is making the suspicion more valid as it was also a feature that was only capable of running on the new hardware. So if they’ve lied about that then there’s no reason to believe they haven’t lied about other things.

Their last 10 YouTube videos went from 2-4K views to half a million until it was called out and now back to to normal…something isn’t adding up

 

[Chocol8]

I guess time will tell which of us is right (if either of us are).

I will never understand the psychology behind people who stubbornly insist on being a gullible idiot. The hardware has been broken down. Its not a matter of opinion, its a matter of real chips on real boards in real devices. There is no debate, there is no grey area. We KNOW what the MKII hardware is and isn't.

Time has already proven you wrong, yet you are still in denial. Why?

 

[crispsandwich]

I will never understand the psychology behind people who stubbornly insist on being a gullible idiot. The hardware has been broken down. Its not a matter of opinion, its a matter of real chips on real boards in real devices. There is no debate, there is no grey area. We KNOW what the MKII hardware is and isn't.

Time has already proven you wrong, yet you are still in denial. Why?

Kiss my ringpiece

 

[guitarsandcoffee]

An admin on the Kemper forums is now saying these are ghost parameters and do not work as expected, even messing with the monitor out....directly gaslighting the user who stated they act exactly as expected and shown in the 2.0 videos.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

At this point, I think the word ''Kemper'' probably could do with the auto-replace treatment, maybe with the word ''Krapper''?

They are probably almost as untrustworthy now as Behringturd, and it's getting worse with every next move.

 

[Mongillo19]

At this point, I think the word ''Kemper'' probably could do with the auto-replace treatment, maybe with the word ''Krapper''?

They are probably almost as untrustworthy now as Behringturd, and it's getting worse with every next move.

"Camper"

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

"Camper"

After the previous uproar, I didn't wanna take it there, but it definitely crossed my mind.

 

[texhex]

Installed the Beta OS and Rig Manager. Rig Manager won’t see any of the Blocks on the device. Every slot except the Amp and Cab are blank. The Blocks on the device all have effects loaded, Drive, Flanger, Reverb, Delay, etc. but Rig Manager doesn’t see any of them.

Reverted back to non-Beta OS and Rig Manager and everything is back to normal.

No more Beta for me.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Personally, I agree ..... but as others [ie:- Businesses] might say, its called "the music business" for a reason

Technically it's Musical Instrument Manufacturing biz.

 

[guitarsandcoffee]

For curiosity's sake, I have a Kemper Player and an MK1 Stage loaded in the same mixer. Loaded up the same 2.0 profile of a 64 deluxe reverb from Rig Exchange. Player is on the 14.0 beta, MK1 is not. Listening on the same studio monitors, approximately the same volume.

There's a bit more clarity on the Player. There's...maybe a bit more responsiveness. But if you blindfolded me and asked which is which I don't think I could tell. The bass end is a bit clearer on the Player, but I could easily EQ that on the MK1 Stage.

Maybe it's more apparent in the volume roll off of a higher gain profile but for this one, I can't tell much of a difference. Certainly nothing that pushes me to buy an MK2.

I'll write again after testing a Marshall or something higher gain. But I suspect the result will be similar.

 

[texhex]

 

[nicolasrivera]

WOW, Leo has spoken! V2

 

[LP59]

I think that matches what everyone has been expecting for months now, and confirms what people are saying in subjective comparisons. It's improved but doesn't raise the bar on the state of the art for profiling accuracy.

It will be interesting to see if all the effort they put into this project turns out to be worthwhile for Kemper.

 

[Schelotto]

But we have to see that the results are the same as tonex pedal V2 and quad cortex v2, around -34db. Tonex plugin v2 has around -38db, the same as NAM plugin. In the comparison the NAM pedal maybe has better AD converters than Kemper, so maybe the fair comparison should be Kemper via audio USB vs nam plugin vs tonex plugin, and the results should be similar.

 

[paisleywookiee]

"Scientific"

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

The latency seems to have gotten a tad bit worse.
I wasn't expecting that.

 

[Deadpan]

The latency seems to have gotten a tad bit worse.
I wasn't expecting that.

It can be profile specific.

 

[crispsandwich]

The latency seems to have gotten a tad bit worse.
I wasn't expecting that.

That's surprising to me, too. Is it detectable when playing? If not, I'm not concerned. And the 2.0 profiles I have tried sound and feel awesome.

Leo is an odd fellow. Good player. clearly, but his null tests are anything but helpful.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

It can be profile specific.

IF that is the case, they should probably have fixed that by now considering that you know, this is the *launch of V2...

....or is it just a very expensive and dishonest, forced beta test?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

That's surprising to me, too. Is it detectable when playing? If not, I'm not concerned. And the 2.0 profiles I have tried sound and feel awesome.

Leo is an odd fellow. Good player. clearly, but his null tests are anything but helpful.

I'm happy for you and all that, but ''feel and sound'' aren't technical words.
Leo's personality or ability to play aren't either.

I think I'll just have to return to ''wet farts'' at this point, I guess.