JiveTurkey
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A strat and a Marshall?!?!?!?!? Shocker.
Mongillo19
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MirrorProfiles
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MK 1 profiling sounds like Kemper. Boxy midrange, top end is subdued, Kemper sounding gain.
MK2 profiling is a bit closer in the top end, but still somewhat different to the source. It also has way too much lower midrange flub that isn't in the real amp, or the mark 1 profiling.
When compared side by side, MK1 profiling sounds a bit more like an mp3 compared to 2. Not sure either one is more accurate, both are in that grey area of being fine but not really accurate.
crispsandwich
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Could someone point me in the direction of Rig Manager 4 for Windows? I cannot find it on their infuriating website, though have updated my mk1 KPA toaster to OS 14.
EDIT - please disregard. I hadn't got the correct box ticked in RM ('include beta releases' when looking for updates). Why can I search for beta OS releases on the website but not RM?
EDIT - please disregard. I hadn't got the correct box ticked in RM ('include beta releases' when looking for updates). Why can I search for beta OS releases on the website but not RM?
ian_dissonance
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Mk2 sounds good, but not the same as the amp. Again, even on a phone speaker.
crispsandwich
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First impressions (from the two 2.0 profiles on the Rig Exchange) - definitely an improvement. That low-mid thing that almost all profiles had, which tbh I mostly liked, is gone. More fidelity, and feels slightly faster under the fingers. The difference between 2.0 running on a mk1 and a mk2 is less substantial than the difference between profiling 1.0 and 2.0, from what I have heard.
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Why do I think the MK1 sounds closer to the real amp
Absolutely, thought the same thing myself. The MKII had this high mid thing going on, like it was honking.
It works online: first the beta OS update installs and then Rig Manager asks permission to update to a version campatible with the new OS version. If you want to do it all offline with a memory stick, the current Rig Manager beta is not available for download from the Kemper site yet.
This is what I have been wondering too.
Especially after tweaking, how much difference is there between the Amp, MK2 profile on an MK2, MK1 profile on MK1, and finally MK2 profile on an MK1.
I suspect that we will see this pretty soon now that it is out in the wild.
crispsandwich
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From TJ's video, there is a definite clarity with 2.0 profiles played on a mk2 unit that isn't there when the same profile is played on a mk1. The lower resolution does make a difference, and tbh I was disappointed to hear that it was noticeable. However, we are all splitting hairs at this point because mk1 profiles were already good enough for pretty much anything. I have a Nano Cortex and a Helix Stadium, so I won't be forking out for a mk2 Kemper product because Neural profiles sound great and Proxy is coming soon. Having said all that, the two Marshally 2.0 profiles I have played on my mk1 definitely sound better than I expected them to. That low-mid thing from 'classic' profiling is awesome most of the time, but it's nice to not have to have it in everything now.
Chocol8
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Yep, it seems like they just released a 4th best capture tech that slots in well behind QC, Tonex, and NAM at least for now. When Proxy hits Kemper MKII will almost definitely slide back to 5th most accurate capture tech. Why did they even bother?
It would make sense if they wanted to give their existing customers more life out of their devices, but then artificially handicapping it makes little sense. Expecting an also ran capture tech to sell a bunch of MKII hardware at Kemper pricing seems pretty crazy to me. They now have a capture tech that can compete with Hotone and Sonicake...just at many times the price.
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crispsandwich
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Hard to disagree with some of this, but Kemper also have 14 years of profiles out there - many of which sound as good as the competition IMO. The FX are far better than Hotone and Sonicake as well. If it didn’t have USB audio recording I would agree that it’s too expensive - but it’s still a very complete unit that still sounds amazing IMO.
guitarsandcoffee
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To each their own, but until 2.0 has a chance to be compared to the others we still really don't know. Don't trust YouTube videos or influencers. The reason Michael Britt profiles typically sound the best in a mix is because he is also a touring musician.
I will say, for amp tones it's a wash between all of the companies at this point. I've heard MK1 Kemper profiles that demolish QC and Helix Stadium, and I've also heard the exact opposite. How good the Kemper sounds depends so much on the user, what mic's they used, how they placed them, what preamps were used, etc. People capturing with a cheap $100 audio interface aren't going to produce "pro" level profiles. QC and Helix come with models so they have other avenues.
For effects, I'm sorry - Kemper leads by a considerable amount. Helix is second, QC is a far third.
From the Kemper forums:
This is a guy that has both MK1 and MK2 and doesn't hear any "meaningful difference". I do understand that the 2.0 profiles do sound "good" and even "better" than MK1 created profiles.
I am REALLY interested in seeing the professional profile packs coming out with V2.0 profiles complete with LP to see how these sound MK1 and MK2.
This is a guy that has both MK1 and MK2 and doesn't hear any "meaningful difference". I do understand that the 2.0 profiles do sound "good" and even "better" than MK1 created profiles.
I am REALLY interested in seeing the professional profile packs coming out with V2.0 profiles complete with LP to see how these sound MK1 and MK2.
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