Kemper Profiler MK 2

[Dom Mcsweeney]

But of course there are some around here that say the Kemper is "20 years old" and Ola's V2 Profile sounds like a "wet fart" ... no I'm not making this shit up, both these statements were posted here today

humour is a terrible thing - I am so sorry for your troubles

 

[BenIfin]

humour is a terrible thing - I am so sorry for your troubles

Nah ... humor is great thing. What's really sad though is when you are called out for making utterly stupid statements and then you try and hide behind the old "I was just trying to be funny and you don't get it" bullshit - its abundantly clear what you said and what you meant ... at least have the guts to own it.

 

[BenIfin]

.... only being able to run on its own HW is a massive compromise to other platforms. That kind of rules me out of testing it, but hopefully some others are up for it

Well fw.i.w my home set up is not too shabby but probably not in your league.

But you're point above is spot on about it being hardware-platform-locked .... if they had a PC / MAC Plugin Player it would be I suspect very popular for a lot of people

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Nah ... humor is great thing. What's really sad though is when you are called out for making utterly stupid statements and then you try and hide behind the old "I was just trying to be funny and you don't get it" bullshit - its abundantly clear what you said and what you meant ... at least have the guts to won it.

It seems you are back to churning the conspiracies out again.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

if they had a PC / MAC Plugin Player it would be I suspect very popular for a lot of people

10 years ago, absolutely. At this point, STL Tonehub and Overloud TH-U already ate Kemper's lunch, and things have moved on since then (Tonehub has tracing, and obviously there's ToneX and NAM too).

 

[Orvillain]

I suspect Y/T's and some forum-ites will choose some very interesting "hills to die on" in order for their their preferred format to "win"

This says more about you than it does anyone else. Why are you so desperate for everyone to love this thing?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

I hope they do make a plugin, make it fairly cheap and fairly cheerful - it would be the best way forward for them I think, and would probably go some ways to regaining them back some relevance in this tired modelling world they've made for themselves.

 

[OneEng]

I suspect it’s an improvement from before, and largely good enough for most people.

Well, we could certainly hope so . Took an awful long time if it doesn't make anything better!

I agree with you though. It will be enough to make anyone who put their cash down on an MK2 feel like they have a win. It is human nature to justify your actions.

I still wonder how things look compared to the competition (including MK1).

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Well, we could certainly hope so . Took an awful long time if it doesn't make anything better!

I agree with you though. It will be enough to make anyone who put their cash down on an MK2 feel like they have a win. It is human nature to justify your actions.

I still wonder how things look compared to the competition (including MK1).

It might bide some time for them until Line 6 release a ProxyBox pedal that combines their fx and captures, or a Fractal (N)AM4 or something from IK that upgrades the FX side of things.

IMO Kemper are more likely to do a MKIII of their existing tech than to move with the times. And they’ll stay within their old parameters of “good enough for most” while lagging more and more behind. It’s like they take one slow step forward when the competition is sprinting.

 

[Jarick]

I actually think the new resonance feature could be awesome IF it works well.

The #1 problem I have with profiles is with the EQ sounding way off from what I want to hear. The high end has a few options to change it - you can adjust the definition control or the treble/presence knobs. But if the low end is off, then you're kind of screwed and the profile (and potentially the entire pack you may have bought) is useless.

Being able to adjust the frequency and amplitude of the cab resonance could be an answer here. Let's say someone shot a killer sounding Dirty Shirley but did it through the matching 1x12 cab and now the profile sounds boxy compared to say a BE-100 through a 4x12. If you can move the cab resonance to a lower frequency and bump it up a bit, maybe you're getting close enough to meshing the tone with other profiles you like.

All of that depends on the new feature actually working though.

 

[Jarick]

Some more info from TJ:

 

[Jarick]

Those comparison clips at the end from V2 to V1 profiles sound pretty different to me - the new profiles have more depth and clarity where the originals are very flat and have an annoying midrange bump.

 

[Mongillo19]

Another big thing to me is how many factory profiles will Kemper make V2? Are you going to have to buy a whole bunch of V2 profiles now when you already spent money on the same makers V1.

It just seems like such a pain

 

[mbenigni]

Another big thing to me is how many factory profiles will Kemper make V2? Are you going to have to buy a whole bunch of V2 profiles now when you already spent money on the same makers V1.

It just seems like such a pain

We're in the same boat over in QC-land right now. I'm still using plenty of V1 stuff. If you liked the sound of a capture last month, it shouldn't sound any worse now, right?

 

[LP59]

I actually think the new resonance feature could be awesome IF it works well.

The #1 problem I have with profiles is with the EQ sounding way off from what I want to hear. The high end has a few options to change it - you can adjust the definition control or the treble/presence knobs. But if the low end is off, then you're kind of screwed and the profile (and potentially the entire pack you may have bought) is useless.

Being able to adjust the frequency and amplitude of the cab resonance could be an answer here. Let's say someone shot a killer sounding Dirty Shirley but did it through the matching 1x12 cab and now the profile sounds boxy compared to say a BE-100 through a 4x12. If you can move the cab resonance to a lower frequency and bump it up a bit, maybe you're getting close enough to meshing the tone with other profiles you like.

All of that depends on the new feature actually working though.

Using a proper EQ block usually works better for adjusting EQ than using cab resonance controls. If you want to change the cab, using resonance controls won't work nearly as well as replacing the IR on a direct profile.

IMHO, being able to select from a library of SIC curves is far more useful than being able to adjust the resonance.

 

[OneEng]

IMO Kemper are more likely to do a MKIII of their existing tech than to move with the times. And they’ll stay within their old parameters of “good enough for most” while lagging more and more behind. It’s like they take one slow step forward when the competition is sprinting.

I am thinking they will run out of parts (EOL) before then .

Those comparison clips at the end from V2 to V1 profiles sound pretty different to me - the new profiles have more depth and clarity where the originals are very flat and have an annoying midrange bump.

I suspect that this is intentional. We need independent analysis IMO.

Another big thing to me is how many factory profiles will Kemper make V2? Are you going to have to buy a whole bunch of V2 profiles now when you already spent money on the same makers V1.

It just seems like such a pain

I would likely buy new profiles IF it made a big difference on my MK1. Prior to buying an MK2 AND buying new profiles, I would likely buy a Stadium though.

 

[dws2384]

I actually think the new resonance feature could be awesome IF it works well.

The #1 problem I have with profiles is with the EQ sounding way off from what I want to hear. The high end has a few options to change it - you can adjust the definition control or the treble/presence knobs. But if the low end is off, then you're kind of screwed and the profile (and potentially the entire pack you may have bought) is useless.

Being able to adjust the frequency and amplitude of the cab resonance could be an answer here. Let's say someone shot a killer sounding Dirty Shirley but did it through the matching 1x12 cab and now the profile sounds boxy compared to say a BE-100 through a 4x12. If you can move the cab resonance to a lower frequency and bump it up a bit, maybe you're getting close enough to meshing the tone with other profiles you like.

All of that depends on the new feature actually working though.

Instead of trying to use a resonance control to make a 1x12 sound like a 4x12 why not just use the apporporate IR for the sound you want in the first place?

DI profiles are so much more flexible than than ones with baked in cab anyways, plus you can actually play the thing into a real cab if you ever want (and not have to use the cab disable feature that just guesses what is the amp and what is the cab)

 

[ian_dissonance]

Doesn't it seem odd that he didn't compare the profile to the amp?

They didn’t on one of the other videos, too. Showed the amp, only played the profiles. They did an A/B earlier and both sounded good, but they didn’t sound the same and it was obvious even on a phone speaker.

 

[BenIfin]

This says more about you than it does anyone else. Why are you so desperate for everyone to love this thing?

How about we ease up on the pseudo pop psychology projection and stick to what I wrote which was simply the inevitable avalanche of X is better than Y which is better than Z etc,,,,, from the Y/T's and forum posts we are going to be flooded with - some of which have already been posted here by people who have buried the product before even using it.

Hence why I bought a cheap Player some 6 months ago which has sat in its box unopened so I could try if for myself without relying on what others claim to be true. If it sounds better to me than what I'm already using, I'll use it. If I don't, then I'll sell it.

If its shit or average or ok or good or brilliant ..... at the moment I have zero idea .... an nor does anyone else here .... thats my point in a nutshell ....... and those that currently think the KPA approach will continue to be sub-standard may well be right.

I haven't used or turned on a Kemper for over 2 years and my Stomp is sold [yes I broke the cardinal rule] and my FM3 is on a long term vacation boxed up .... my current live rig is amazing to me .... so yeah I'm in love with the KPA and I'm its no. 1 public advocate ... said me never.

 

[Orvillain]

How about we ease up on the psuedo pop psychology projection

Hmmmm no, I don't think I will do that.

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