Kemper Profiler MK 2

[Orvillain]

Yeah sure. I mean, what matters next is subjective. It entirely depends on what you want to take from that test result, and if you even care.

It's measurements that matter though, especially at these varying levels of accuracy, if one company is going to boldly claim they are now finally offering an even more precise profiler.

The more red, the less accurate in that frequency band the capture platform is, when compared to the original amp.

 

[Deadpan]

I can hear strange artifact noises in this example that I didn't like, and wouldn't want, personally.

Can you post your examples that prove Kemper can't do high gain?

Or your ideal high gain tone for reference?

 

[Orvillain]

Whether it matters is another question

It matters if your goal is a digital recreation of a real amp.

If your goal is just to get a tone, then use a Mooer pedal and call it done.

 

[Orvillain]

Or your ideal high gain tone for reference?

Kemper can't sound this good.

 

[AFKAEjay(retired)]

It's measurements that matter though, especially at these varying levels of accuracy, if one company is going to boldly claim they are now finally offering an even more precise profiler.

Yeah, sure. Especially for users with no reference to units, im sure a lot of buying decisions are made based upon it.

Indeed they did a bold statement, we will see. Afaik overpromising is not their style, so im optimistic…but proof of the pudding is in the eating offcourse.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

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Can you post your examples that prove Kemper can't do high gain?

Or your ideal high gain tone for reference?

I've never said "it can't do high gain".
That was other people.
But, you have claimed the opposite.
I'm only interested in this entire thread because of the following marketing copy:
"the most precise amp recreation ever achieved."

The only way to prove this true is not talking about your opinion, or mine, but to test it properly.
A null test is one option, and I look forward to that when someone shares their results.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Kemper can't sound this good.

I'm not particularly interested in Kemper but I'll take more Chevelle.

 

[Orvillain]

I'm not particularly interested in Kemper but I'll take more Chevelle.

That Mark toaaaannnnnnn

 

[Sascha Franck]

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There's zero reasons for me to look out for whatever "cocked wah" sounds produced by the KPA. If it was a general issue, finding a video/audio linik should be absolutely trivial.

 

[Funk Soul Brother]

I just learnt about those LVLs in Kemper. Wow, that sucks a lot. I hope Line6 doesn't ever go that road with Helix.

 

[Orvillain]

If it was a general issue, finding a video/audio linik should be absolutely trivial.

It is. Try it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

If your goal is just to get a tone, then use a Mooer pedal and call it done.

You know yourself what kinda response that is, don't you?

 

[SillyOctpuss]

That Mark toaaaannnnnnn

I was listening to this yesterday, fucking killer guitar tone.

 

[Sascha Franck]

It is. Try it.

I have. And I have found some links. I wanted proof for "every Kemper profile sounding like a cocked wah".

 

[Orvillain]

You know yourself what kinda response that is, don't you?

Elucidate.

I have. And I have found some links. I wanted proof for "every Kemper profile sounding like a cocked wah".

Turn up the definition knob too far. Instant cocked-wah sound. Yes. Every profile can sound like a cocked wah.

 

[Deadpan]

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I've never said "it can't do high gain".
That was other people.
But, you have claimed the opposite.
I'm only interested in this entire thread because of the following marketing copy:
"the most precise amp recreation ever achieved."

The only way to prove this true is not talking about your opinion, or mine, but to test it properly.
A null test is one option, and I look forward to that when someone shares their results.

Null tests doesn't tell the whole story though.

 

[Orvillain]

Null tests doesn't tell the whole story though.

When it comes to the marketing claim:
"the most precise amp recreation ever achieved."

Then yes, measurements - null tests and others - are the whole story.

 

[norminal]

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[Dom Mcsweeney]

Null tests doesn't tell the whole story though.

This isn't a book club, stories aren't what we are discussing.

A null test is what you do when you are trying to determine how accurate your test subjects are to a reference.
In this case, a real amp vs other models of that real amp.

It's a correct methodology of testing what we are discussing.
Opinions are fine, I love those, but, they aren't how to measure a company's claim that they have made "the most precise amp recreation ever achieved."

 

[Desertdweller]

your ideal high gain tone

In studio:



Live:


Funny how it's the same guy, right?