Ibanez Edge Zero II

[metropolis_4]

Is it really that bad?

 

[Stone]

 

[Eagle]

No not really but it’s not as good as the original edge. The ones to avoid are the Edge pro2 and the edge 3 .Also the Takeuchi is utter garbage.

 

[Eagle]

Spares is a PITA. But it’s considerably better than most licensed units and the Floyd special.

 

[DrewJD82]

I’ve never spent time with one to truly give it a review because I just didn’t dig them when playing them in stores the little I did. If it’s not an Edge or LoPro I’m just not interested.

 

[Eagle]

I’ve never spent time with one to truly give it a review because I just didn’t dig them when playing them in stores the little I did. If it’s not an Edge or LoPro I’m just not interested.

They work and you don’t see issues usually. The zero point is effective too but I agree.

 

[saarangnarayan]

They are the best-in-class trems when it comes to tuning stability. No other mid-to-low tier trem can even come close to the EZII. It's knofe edges are made of the same hardened material that is used for the Original Edge, Edge Pro, and Lo-Pro Edge. The difference is in the materials used for the other parts of the trem, but even then I am yet to find any issues on my EZII-equipped guitars. Having said that there are two problems with the EZII that Ibanez needs to address ASAP. First is the awful trem arm collar that can never be tight or loose enough. Secondly, the ZPS is hot garbage. It's designed to fail because the "correct" position for the stop bar is such that it requires you to put the trem itself in the incorrect position. (This video explains and fixes the stop bar issue.) Having said that, if you're lucky enough to have the EZII without the ZPS, then it will be a great trem system. And you can always upgrade the trem arm assembly to one that can accept the UTA20 carbon fibre arm to make the most out of the EZII.

 

[Eagle]

They are the best-in-class trems when it comes to tuning stability. No other mid-to-low tier trem can even come close to the EZII. Its knofe edges are made of the same hardened material that is used for the Original Edge, Edge Pro, and Lo-Pro Edge. The difference is in the materials used for the other parts of the trem, but even then I am yet to find any issues on my EZII-equipped guitars. Having said that there are two problems with the EZII that Ibanez needs to address ASAP. First is the awful trem arm collar that can never be tight or loose enough. Secondly, the ZPS is hot garbage. It's designed to fail because the "correct" position for the stop bar is such that it requires you to put the trem itself in the incorrect position. (This video explains and fixes the stop bar issue.) Having said that, if you're lucky enough to have the EZII without the ZPS, then it will be a great trem system. And you can always upgrade the trem arm assembly to one that can accept the UTA20 carbon fibre arm to make the most out of the EZII.

Your problem with the zero point is setup error. The baseplate it wedge shaped and the zero point positions the underside parallel with the string plane and the block at a right angle. This is the correct position. Not liking the angle on top is not a fault and setting it up to sit flatter on top would make issues .

 

[saarangnarayan]

Your problem with the zero point is setup error. The baseplate it wedge shaped and the zero point positions the underside parallel with the string plane and the block at a right angle. This is the correct position. Not liking the angle on top is not a fault and setting it up to sit flatter on top would make issues .

Sorry but you're wrong here. The angle on the top is an indication of where the knife edges are. And the only rule for setting up a floating-trem cirrectly is that the knife edges must be perpendicular to the trem post and (naturally, then) parallel to the top of the guitar body. If the knife edges are not perpendicular to the trem post, then the trem is not in zero position, and keeping iti so will A) ruin your knife edges very quickly, and B) not offer tuning stability. And the top of the EZII is exactly parallel to the knife edges (unlike the OE and LPE) and so the top of the trem plate MUST be parallel to the body for the EZII to be set up correctly. And with the ZPS, if you keep the top of the trem parallel to the body, then the stop bar does not make contact with the block, which basically means it is not in operation. This is bad design, plain and simple.

 

[saarangnarayan]

Here’s a closer look at the trem plate of the EZII. It’s not wedge shaped like the Original Edge and Lo Pro Edge.

 

[the-trooper]

And the only rule for setting up a floating-trem cirrectly is that the knife edges must be perpendicular to the trem post and (naturally, then) parallel to the top of the guitar body.

Nope, RTFM.

 

[saarangnarayan]

Nope, RTFM.
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Yeah but that's not an Edge Zero II you have in your FM there.

 

[saarangnarayan]

Nope, RTFM.
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Also, this does not contradict the bit that you quoted from my previous post. The knife edges ARE parallel to the body in this diagram as well. The little rectangle you see near the trem post is literally the knife edge that is exposed to guide the person doing the set up.

 

[the-trooper]

Yeah but that's not an Edge Zero II you have in your FM there.

 

[saarangnarayan]

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As I stated above, the trem in the diagram on p. 2 IS NOT THE EDGE ZERO II.

 

[saarangnarayan]

In case it’s still not clear, this is the Edge Zero II:

And this is the Original Edge (the trem that the manual has on p. 2):

 

[Eagle]

Sorry my bad the angle is the top of the saddles it this case. The zero point still represents a right angle of the block to the strings. The error is still what I said.

 

[Eagle]

As I stated above, the trem in the diagram on p. 2 IS NOT THE EDGE ZERO II.

There are both trems on page two. The zero point part.

 

[Eagle]

Sorry but you're wrong here. The angle on the top is an indication of where the knife edges are. And the only rule for setting up a floating-trem cirrectly is that the knife edges must be perpendicular to the trem post and (naturally, then) parallel to the top of the guitar body. If the knife edges are not perpendicular to the trem post, then the trem is not in zero position, and keeping iti so will A) ruin your knife edges very quickly, and B) not offer tuning stability. And the top of the EZII is exactly parallel to the knife edges (unlike the OE and LPE) and so the top of the trem plate MUST be parallel to the body for the EZII to be set up correctly. And with the ZPS, if you keep the top of the trem parallel to the body, then the stop bar does not make contact with the block, which basically means it is not in operation. This is bad design, plain and simple.

The zero point is affected by the position of the zero point cage in the back. There may be scope to install this slightly too far back. I don’t have one in front of me but this again is not a fault of the trem this would be an installation issue. I have set up many of these and never had a problem with them.

 

[Eagle]

Here’s a closer look at the trem plate of the EZII. It’s not wedge shaped like the Original Edge and Lo Pro Edge. View attachment 23619View attachment 23620View attachment 23621

Different block to the one in the video.