Helix Stadium Agoura Amps Sneak Peek video

[Orvillain]

 

[crispsandwich]

For the umpteenth time, people heard Agoura before a single Stadium feature was discussed. The video that prefaced my demo was all Agoura guitars (Jeff Schroeder) and bass (John Button) and the video's now been watched 214,000 times.

What, were we going to record the guitars and bass clips in a Helix Stadium video through anything but Helix Stadium?

And how could the WT guys possibly share new Agoura clips in their video? The only hardware that's left the building are in the hands of a select few beta testers.

Shared this on FB, but I guess it's appropriate here too:

"WHHHAAAAA! WHERE ARE THE CLIPS?!"—only for myself and others to link to a now-month-old video with 200k+ views consisting of multiple guitar and bass tracks through Agoura—reminds me of a story from high school:​

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Used to do "facing" in a large Arizona grocery outlet; it involved pulling all the boxes and bags to the front of each shelf so everything looked nice and stocked. In the cereal aisle, an older woman came up, poked me in the shoulder and yelled "Where's the SOUP?!" I politely replied "The soup is on aisle two, ma'am." (We weren't supposed to leave our post.) She promptly left without saying anything.​

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15 minutes later, I received another poke in the shoulder, this time much harder. "I looked ALL OVER aisle two and there's NO SOUP! What, are you STUPID?!" So I left the cereal aisle and brought her to aisle 2, which had a massive "2" sign above it. One side of aisle 2 was nothing but soup. Literally ALL soup. "Aisle two—soup," I said, while gesturing to the wall of cans.​

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"W-w-well I didn't look at THIS SIDE. You should make it more obvious!"​

I agree with your points DI, but I still want clips

 

[timbuck3]

I'm a simple man - so lets not speak in code here - lets be clear and unambiguous about the subtext.

There is a view by some, that Fractal invented the "wheel" and no-one knows how to make a better "wheel" than them. Those same people also believe that no-one will ever build a "better wheel"

Personally - I think that to the extent that that maybe was the case ~10 years ago or so .... those days are now long one.

It is quite possible - or not - that whatever Agoura does, is a "better wheel" and maybe a "better wheel" overall moving forward than anyone else.

None of us have any f&cking idea yet.

Yet somehow, its OK for Fractal to find a better way to model a "Johnson rod" and that's a groundbreaking epiphany celebrated in an almost Biblical way by their acolytes - yet when another company openly says they have built a better way for them to do something, and perhaps some of their new way is not being done by anyone else, that's crass, cheap, hypocritical marketing b.s.

One word ... "gameboy"

Well said. We really don’t know what stadium will really sound like agoura wise compared to of helix or even fractal yet.
Somehow, I think Cliff is thinking or has that attitude of I’ll show them with the next release that’s coming from fractal

 

[timbuck3]

Funny. For me it was so obvious they meant "new for Line6 and Helix". Otherwise they should add whatever words needed for the audience to understand they're comparing themselves to all competitors.

But if you've followed Line6 a bit, you know that's not their style. And that attitude is one of the reasons users trust them and preorder the Stadium without having listened anything from it.

If you have reasons to think Line6 is as arrogant as you're implying, the fair thing is to talk about them so we all know.

Which in the end could be a complete fail for line 6 if this really doesn’t deliver kind of like Quad cortex

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I could not care less about clips. I know how the Helix sounds now. If Agoura models sound like that or better at launch, awesome. I'm in. Stuff's only going to get better as the product matures.

 

[ian_dissonance]

None of you are going to discern anything of value from YouTube clips anyways.

 

[Mongillo19]

None of you are going to discern anything of value from YouTube clips anyways.

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

 

[Digital Igloo]

I agree with your points DI, but I still want clips

See, this is like that one lady in the grocery store looking at my gesture to the entire wall of soup, and then exclaiming "Yeah, but I still want soup."

Here ma'am, look to your left, my right. Can you see all of these metal shelves with cans on them? Can you please pick one up and read what it says?

"Campbell's Chicken Noodle...?"

Okay, yes. Now what's that next word, right after 'Noodle'?

"Uh... Soup?"

Yes. Soup:

 

[la szum]

For the umpteenth time, people heard Agoura before a single Stadium feature was discussed. The video that prefaced my demo was all Agoura guitars (Jeff Schroeder) and bass (John Button) and the video's now been watched 214,000 times.

What, were we going to record the guitars and bass clips in a Helix Stadium video through anything but Helix Stadium?

And how could the WT guys possibly share new Agoura clips in their video? The only hardware that's left the building are in the hands of a select few beta testers.

Shared this on FB, but I guess it's appropriate here too:

"WHHHAAAAA! WHERE ARE THE CLIPS?!"—only for myself and others to link to a now-month-old video with 200k+ views consisting of multiple guitar and bass tracks through Agoura—reminds me of a story from high school:​

​

Used to do "facing" in a large Arizona grocery outlet; it involved pulling all the boxes and bags to the front of each shelf so everything looked nice and stocked. In the cereal aisle, an older woman came up, poked me in the shoulder and yelled "Where's the SOUP?!" I politely replied "The soup is on aisle two, ma'am." (We weren't supposed to leave our post.) She promptly left without saying anything.​

​

15 minutes later, I received another poke in the shoulder, this time much harder. "I looked ALL OVER aisle two and there's NO SOUP! What, are you STUPID?!" So I left the cereal aisle and brought her to aisle 2, which had a massive "2" sign above it. One side of aisle 2 was nothing but soup. Literally ALL soup. "Aisle two—soup," I said, while gesturing to the wall of cans.​

​

"W-w-well I didn't look at THIS SIDE. You should make it more obvious!"​

I think you should create a new position for an employee who's sole task on a daily basis
is to cater to address the needs of all the Bottom-Feeders.

Position will require an inherent proclivity for masochism, though.

 

[la szum]

See, this is like that one lady in the grocery store looking at my gesture to the entire wall of soup, and then exclaiming "Yeah, but I still want soup."

Here ma'am, look to your left, my right. Can you see all of these metal shelves with cans on them? Can you please pick one up and read what it says?

"Campbell's Chicken Noodle...?"

Okay, yes. Now what's that next word, right after 'Noodle'?

"Uh... Soup?"

Yes. Soup:

Now come and open the Can, put in a Pot, and heat on the Stove for me, too. K?

And no, I will not say "Please!" or "Thank you!!"


Can't wait to see this hit the Street and the Stage. You all are slaying!!

 

[AlbertA]

See, this is like that one lady in the grocery store looking at my gesture to the entire wall of soup, and then exclaiming "Yeah, but I still want soup."

Here ma'am, look to your left, my right. Can you see all of these metal shelves with cans on them? Can you please pick one up and read what it says?

"Campbell's Chicken Noodle...?"

Okay, yes. Now what's that next word, right after 'Noodle'?

"Uh... Soup?"

Yes. Soup:

Using your analogy

"I went to aisle 2, found an unlabeled can that I think is soup, is this what you meant when you pointed me to it?

Yes, that's soup - do you think we a grocery store wouldn't have soup?

"But its just one small unlabeled can - I don't even know the..."

"Sshhhh, Waaah always asking for soup - Enjoy your can, Ma'am."

 

[timbuck3]

For the umpteenth time, people heard Agoura before a single Stadium feature was discussed. The video that prefaced my demo was all Agoura guitars (Jeff Schroeder) and bass (John Button) and the video's now been watched 214,000 times.

What, were we going to record the guitars and bass clips in a Helix Stadium video through anything but Helix Stadium?

And how could the WT guys possibly share new Agoura clips in their video? The only hardware that's left the building are in the hands of a select few beta testers.

Shared this on FB, but I guess it's appropriate here too:

"WHHHAAAAA! WHERE ARE THE CLIPS?!"—only for myself and others to link to a now-month-old video with 200k+ views consisting of multiple guitar and bass tracks through Agoura—reminds me of a story from high school:​

​

Used to do "facing" in a large Arizona grocery outlet; it involved pulling all the boxes and bags to the front of each shelf so everything looked nice and stocked. In the cereal aisle, an older woman came up, poked me in the shoulder and yelled "Where's the SOUP?!" I politely replied "The soup is on aisle two, ma'am." (We weren't supposed to leave our post.) She promptly left without saying anything.​

​

15 minutes later, I received another poke in the shoulder, this time much harder. "I looked ALL OVER aisle two and there's NO SOUP! What, are you STUPID?!" So I left the cereal aisle and brought her to aisle 2, which had a massive "2" sign above it. One side of aisle 2 was nothing but soup. Literally ALL soup. "Aisle two—soup," I said, while gesturing to the wall of cans.​

​

"W-w-well I didn't look at THIS SIDE. You should make it more obvious!"​

Come on D.I …. That track in the video was not much of a sample of agoura tones .. I mean honestly who knows what pre/post processing was in there and there was not much variety of tones. Sorry but that reminded me of boss vids for a product where they show guys playing and rocking out in a band in an empty warehouse and it’s NOT LIVE AT ALL but post processed with god knows what.

 

[Orvillain]

Enjoy your cans, Ma'am.

Thank you! I will!

 

[Digital Igloo]

Using your analogy

"I went to aisle 2, found an unlabeled can that I think is soup, is this what you meant when you pointed me to it?

Yes, that's soup - do you think we a grocery store wouldn't have soup?

"But its just one small unlabeled can - I don't even know the..."

"Sshhhh, Waaah always asking for soup - Enjoy your can, Ma'am."

Nah, more like "On June 11, we're serving two meals—lunch and dinner. If you missed either meal time, you can eat them later. Lunch is four courses with soup as course three and the dinner is just soup. In fact, close to a quarter million people have eaten the soup-only dinner, far more than those who ate lunch."

"Yeah, but people who ate it might not know it was soup."

What'd they think they were eating? Melted ice cream?

 

[jmcecil]

Although funny, I think the snarky reply is a bit disingenuous. By "clips" I think people mean individual amp demos, not a reference to a soundtrack. Yes, the video contains clips of the models. But it's not what is being asked. Anyhow, XL pre-ordered .. can't wait to make my own "clips".

 

[molul]

Yes. Soup:

You mentioned Jeff Schroeder played guitars here. May I assume he also wrote the tune? There is some pumpkiness in there.

Jeff looks like the kind of guy you could spend a whole day just toying with the Helix. I was so sad when he left the Pumpkins. He was so loved by the fans since he joined.

 

[AlbertA]

 

[GTR37]

For the umpteenth time, people heard Agoura before a single Stadium feature was discussed. The video that prefaced my demo was all Agoura guitars (Jeff Schroeder) and bass (John Button) and the video's now been watched 214,000 times.

What, were we going to record the guitars and bass clips in a Helix Stadium video through anything but Helix Stadium?

And how could the WT guys possibly share new Agoura clips in their video? The only hardware that's left the building are in the hands of a select few beta testers.

Shared this on FB, but I guess it's appropriate here too:

"WHHHAAAAA! WHERE ARE THE CLIPS?!"—only for myself and others to link to a now-month-old video with 200k+ views consisting of multiple guitar and bass tracks through Agoura—reminds me of a story from high school:​

​

Used to do "facing" in a large Arizona grocery outlet; it involved pulling all the boxes and bags to the front of each shelf so everything looked nice and stocked. In the cereal aisle, an older woman came up, poked me in the shoulder and yelled "Where's the SOUP?!" I politely replied "The soup is on aisle two, ma'am." (We weren't supposed to leave our post.) She promptly left without saying anything.​

​

15 minutes later, I received another poke in the shoulder, this time much harder. "I looked ALL OVER aisle two and there's NO SOUP! What, are you STUPID?!" So I left the cereal aisle and brought her to aisle 2, which had a massive "2" sign above it. One side of aisle 2 was nothing but soup. Literally ALL soup. "Aisle two—soup," I said, while gesturing to the wall of cans.​

​

"W-w-well I didn't look at THIS SIDE. You should make it more​

See, this is like that one lady in the grocery store looking at my gesture to the entire wall of soup, and then exclaiming "Yeah, but I still want soup."

Here ma'am, look to your left, my right. Can you see all of these metal shelves with cans on them? Can you please pick one up and read what it says?

"Campbell's Chicken Noodle...?"

Okay, yes. Now what's that next word, right after 'Noodle'?

"Uh... Soup?"

Yes. Soup:

They likely want dry clips not in mix and playing riffs they know is my guess
Like your AC/DC on a plexi
Or Alice in Chains on a Bogner , Periphery on the 5153

 

[sashimi]

Nah, more like "On June 11, we're serving two meals—lunch and dinner. If you missed either meal time, you can eat them later. Lunch is four courses with soup as course three and the dinner is just soup. In fact, close to a quarter million people have eaten the soup-only dinner, far more than those who ate lunch."

"Yeah, but people who ate it might not know it was soup."

What'd they think they were eating? Melted ice cream?

But but but how are people supposed to complain about inaccuracy when they don’t know which amp they have never played is being modeled??

 

[ian_dissonance]

But but but how are people supposed to complain about inaccuracy when they don’t know which amp they have never played is being modeled??

Luckily it’s a modeler and not a profiler so the only people they would even know built the thing.