GT-1000 with 3rd party IR sounds diferent than IR loader

[Chocol8]

A measurement microphone designed to have a flat response and not color the sound. They are often calibrated so any non-flat portions of response can be corrected in software.

 

[afonsom98]

A measurement microphone designed to have a flat response and not color the sound. They are often calibrated so any non-flat portions of response can be corrected in software.

How would someone even uses this live?

 

[JiveTurkey]

A measurement microphone designed to have a flat response and not color the sound. They are often calibrated so any non-flat portions of response can be corrected in software.

This is the actual answer. I don't believe they did anything other than craft a basic eq curve and call it a stock cabinet though. I don't know how "right" I am but I don't take their word on anything as they seem to purposely ignore the modern times they exist in.

 

[afonsom98]

I got news, people:

I asked boss: "is there anyway I can make it sound closes to the IR loader? maybe convert to a file similar to the gt1000 cab files in terms of bit rate, sample rate or time? This is a real deal breaker on the Boss side."

 

[Chocol8]

How would someone even uses this live?

The intended use is to capture measurements, like frequency response graphs for speakers and cabs, or to set the EQ for a room/venue.

A flat omnidirectional mic can also be used as a neutral room mic, and they can be used to capture IR's that don't have room reflections or mic coloration when combined with the ground plane measurement technique. That was something Jay Mitchell has promoted.

Using it for a close mic'ed IR just gives you an IR without the coloration of classic guitar mic's like a 57.

 

[JiveTurkey]

"We're regurgitating all our old products into slightly different form factors and not developing anything new so we have time to actually respond!"

 

[afonsom98]

I got news, people: View attachment 47118

so, that thing about being able to load 96khz IR is kinda pointless

 

[Sascha Franck]

is not the tonex problem. Is boss, per usual. Try a patch with nothing on except the send return. It adds noise.

I will check for that again. It's at least not bothering me enough in my current setup to be an issue (see other thread, I posted an example).

Also, even if you have it on in a diferent path from the divider, the sound from the guitar being played somehow creeps in on the path that is engaged. Imagine this: send return turned on on path B (turned off), but path A is on. If if playing someting, some sound from path B (send return) keeps appering.

Not sure why there's a guitar signal in the other path, but if you keep the loops active while switching between path A and B, there will be a return noise (depending on what you have in that loop) as the loops stay active. Which ie exactly why I'm not switching the splitter but the mixer where the two signals are collapsed. I defenitely recommend that.

 

[Sascha Franck]

so, that thing about being able to load 96khz IR is kinda pointless

Yes. Apart from that, the sound is altered when you use and compare genuine 44.1 IRs as well.

 

[afonsom98]

Yes. Apart from that, the sound is altered when you use and compare genuine 44.1 IRs as well.

well shit, this is a really bad unit for 2025, isn´t it?

 

[JiveTurkey]

If you like the sounds it makes and don't need anything external and are fine not putting it up against anything else current; it's actually a great device. As much as I have complained over the years Form factor (ugh) is perfect

 

[Baba]

Good to see I'm not missing anything by continuing to NOT use BOSS, in the modeling space.

I don't dislike them, in fact, I really like the sound of those X models, and if I didn't already have a Helix and a Stomp XL, AND BOSS's polyphonic pitch shifter (at least on the ME series), also pitched UP and not just down, (am I still right about that?), I'd seriously consider simplifying and using an ME-90.

 

[afonsom98]

If you like the sounds it makes and don't need anything external and are fine not putting it up against anything else current; it's actually a great device. As much as I have complained over the years Form factor (ugh) is perfect

The problem is that everything else is way more expensive. I bought my gt1000 core for 400 euros on ebay.

 

[Sascha Franck]

If you like the sounds it makes and don't need anything external and are fine not putting it up against anything else current; it's actually a great device. As much as I have complained over the years Form factor (ugh) is perfect

For me it's an incredible love/hate-relationship. It does some things no other modeler does right now - but it doesn't necessarily do them properly. The main reason for me to buy it (and keep it for at least a while to come) have been instant switching and global blocks. But the instant switching comes with (sometimes unforseeable) compromises and the global block functionality, while still being the main reason for me to keep it, is realized in a way that I can barely believe this was actually tested at all in terms of usability. There's a risk of accidentally overwriting a global patch setting as you can't see which ones you use in the save dialog and when you copy a patch you would have to deactivate all global blocks (should you not want to use that patch in a "global group"), otherwise you might destroy your precious global settings for that block (there needed to be an option to "de-couple" all blocks from being global).
And let's not even start to talk about anything related to editing. Regardless of doing it on the unit or through whatever editor, compared to any decent other devices, it'a a most gruesome experience - just try to set up and control assignments on the device and you know what having a really bad day feels like (but you of all people obviously know that already).

 

[BenIfin]

Stick to the X Amps, the Boss Original Amps and the AIRD Boss Cabs ..... at all costs avoid the legacy Amps and forget getting 3rd Party IR's to play/sound "right" .... add this all to the Form Factor and the GT1K is a kick-ass unit.

Here in end'eth the lesson

 

[Lysander]

The problem is that everything else is way more expensive. I bought my gt1000 core for 400 euros on ebay.

Seems to be a thing. I've seen GT-1000 COREs in mint condition selling for like half their retail price.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Like two solid updates and it’d be really great, IMO. Definitely some bonehead stuff in the implementation, but I think some of that comes from all the editing behavior being a front end MIDI.

 

[Lysander]

Yeah, i tried the big GT-1000 back in the day and was very impressed by how it sounded. But, like everything Boss, one has to make peace with the your device will always stay exactly how it was was when you bought it.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Big GT1000 is best, imo. The Core should have been a hit but it was noisy and just did not play nice with other gear so consequently; the size of it was restricting.

 

[Sascha Franck]

but I think some of that comes from all the editing behavior being a front end MIDI.

Yeah, that defenitely seems to cause several issues.