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Looks like it leverages NAM to nail the SIC / response of a certain tube poweramp <-> cabinet / speaker pairing.
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Chocol8
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Since it’s Drew we are talking about, Dave should just print the shipping label. No need to actually drop it off at the carrier.
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So based on the TOP thread, it seems that if you want to use it with a tube amp, you want to leave the Reactance knob all the way down or low, which I assume minimizes the "tube-ness" of the poweramp behavior. Turn reactance up, and it will start to behave more like a Friedman guitar poweramp.
The advantages to this compared to a Fryette PS would likely be the stereo functionality and lighter weight. Let's see what the price looks like.
The advantages to this compared to a Fryette PS would likely be the stereo functionality and lighter weight. Let's see what the price looks like.
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How is this different from the Two Notes Torpedo RELOAD II?
Blix
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Quite different, The reload doesn't have IR's or can work as an interface.
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Is it fully analog or A/D->DSP->D/A even without IRs?
Something has to apply the impedance curve measured form my cab, that would be DSP?
BTW, I've shared the idea on the forums of tapping voltage from the cab and re-processing it in real time many moons ago., glad to see it happen.
Something has to apply the impedance curve measured form my cab, that would be DSP?
BTW, I've shared the idea on the forums of tapping voltage from the cab and re-processing it in real time many moons ago., glad to see it happen.
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Chocol8
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It could be done by modifying the damping on the power amp output, but I get the impression that it will actually measure the impedance of your cab and then bake it in via DSP.
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It seems to feed that info to the ML model even after the fact, so I'm guessing the measurement is to get the impedance curve.
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Ok. And does the Friedman also serve as an attenuator?
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I'm guessing the emulated Friedman 100W power amp is also DSP powered to which the tapped voltage from the real cab is fed back for realistic interaction, that makes all the knobs like Reactance, Presence and Depth digital (encoders).
I presume it's something like a reactive load with multi R/L/C stages instead of one for a more accurate load curve and then DSP into a Class D power amp.
I presume it's something like a reactive load with multi R/L/C stages instead of one for a more accurate load curve and then DSP into a Class D power amp.
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Yes, load+power amp.
Chocol8
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Yes, it seems they are calling it an attenuator, but what I believe it is is a reamp box like the PS-2 and PS100 units. It loads the amp, gets a line/ instrument ? level signal to run through the stereo loop, and then it powers it back up to the level you want.
There are depth presence, and reactance controls that appear to be on the power amp side in addition to whatever the Synergy machine learning tech is. I am guessing the ML is the SIC compensation mechanism, but I am not 100%V sure on that.
If is priced right, I may be interested in this, but there has been some mention of much smaller Wampler product that incorporates the same ML tech.
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Seems kinda niche with no stereo amp in. Interesting product for sure, but I'm sure it's pricey.
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As I understand it, it seems to be a pedal-sized power amp only with the same tech.
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The amp in is for the load for a tube amp which most are mono. If you want to pair it with a modeler, there are stereo ins on the loop return. Stereo amp in would mean doubling the load portion which would add cost weight and size for a use case that I think would be pretty rare.
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If priced right and it delivers in sound quality it could be a PS170/BAM200 killer! Both of these products have my attention.
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Yeah, most rack power amps are stereo, so having a dual load would have been cool and filled a void. (Though I’m sure they probably figured they won’t recoup enough sales for a stereo load to outweigh the size/weight to include it)
I’m curious to see a deep dive on it, but I’m guessing it’s going to priced out of being practical as a straight load box and not particularly exciting as a reamper (let me take this 100w amp, run it down into a SS class D power amp, and then convince myself I’m having fun doing it lol)
As a power amp, maybe you can flatten it to be transparent for a modeler or amp pedal, or then bake in the Friedman power amp when you need PA mojo, and hope that mojo works with everything since that’s its voicing.
Probably cool as a kitchen sink device in a single enclosure tho. Need to see Dave or Pete give a rundown on it.
