Fractal Audio Systems AM4 - Amp Modeler

paisleywookiee said:
No sir. I am not a greedy man. Just 6.

It's basically your fault, if you think about it. I was going into this thinking I'd supplement with perhaps a delay and/or reverb in the insert. But the delays and reverbs are just so good, that are built-in. So now, I'm trying to figure out how to work things.

If I had even one block more, it'd probably do the trick, because then I could do OD, Amp/Cab, Modulation, Delay, Reverb. OR......I do just an external OD. I don't know. I'll figure it out.

This thing is amazing though.
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My VP4 on my board with effects before and after it is :chef I imagine the AM4 is going to be the same situation :love
 
JiveTurkey said:
My VP4 on my board with effects before and after it is :chef I imagine the AM4 is going to be the same situation :love
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So, I've thought about adding the VP4 already, because you know, I can't leave well enough alone. If I run SDPIF out of the AM4, do I run it back into the input as a loop-type deal? Or is it just SPDIF out, into the VP4, into whatever the amplification is?
 
paisleywookiee said:
So, I've thought about adding the VP4 already, because you know, I can't leave well enough alone. If I run SDPIF out of the AM4, do I run it back into the input as a loop-type deal? Or is it just SPDIF out, into the VP4, into whatever the amplification is?
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I've thought a time (or 77) about how I would do this. I can't remember where I "landed" but I will say I would probably want to keep the target the AM4 split output modes and use them accordingly. I feel like SDPIF is not quite what I wanted when I started looking at it. I'd want them stacked one above the other ideally.
 
paisleywookiee said:
Alright, I'll be that guy. I love this thing. I really, really do.

I wish it had 5 blocks. :rofl 6 tops. Just 6.
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I told you Wookie
It is freaking great , it’s honestly one of my fav guitar products I have picked up probably in last decade

Anyway , one thing you could do if your delay needs are not to much
Try the EchoVerb combo
So you can have a delay and reverb in one block you can even choose the blend between both

So Drive / Amp-cab/ Mod / delay-verb

But then would you need a wah ?
 
I have been getting my guitars ready to where I no longer need the pitch block. The AM4 is absolutely an on the table option provided the second project ever decides to show up to the wrestling ring :hmm
 
GTR37 said:
I told you Wookie
It is freaking great , it’s honestly one of my fav guitar products I have picked up probably in last decade

Anyway , one thing you could do if your delay needs are not to much
Try the EchoVerb combo
So you can have a delay and reverb in one block you can even choose the blend between both

So Drive / Amp-cab/ Mod / delay-verb

But then would you need a wah ?
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Nah I use a physical wah regardless. No worries there. (not that there's anything wrong with the wahs in Fractal stuff).
 
Orvillain said:
I feel similar yknow. The Fractal stuff is very cool, but there's always a bit of a "flat" sound to the effects... lacking a bit of character. Obviously we could get really annoying about all of the subtleties and what not, but .... it shouldn't really be a case where I prefer a £100 reverb pedal from 2004....
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I think they might just be made with different goals. I find for example Source Audio to be clearer and more present than my Strymons, but that makes them harder to blend into your base sound without taking most of the sparkle out first. Fractal is somewhere in their own territory.

I use the Flint V2 for reverb despite my SA Collider sounding better because the Flint never overpowers, sits on top or gets in the way.
 
Orvillain said:
I feel similar yknow. The Fractal stuff is very cool, but there's always a bit of a "flat" sound to the effects... lacking a bit of character. Obviously we could get really annoying about all of the subtleties and what not, but .... it shouldn't really be a case where I prefer a £100 reverb pedal from 2004....
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There are times when I want a cheap pedal in my chain as well, just because I like it. I don't expect every effect in my AM4 to be my favorite of its kind. But then, I also don't believe in "best" or "superior," only in personal preference.

Regardless, you need to use what you like. No faulting you for that.
 
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paisleywookiee said:
So, I've thought about adding the VP4 already, because you know, I can't leave well enough alone. If I run SDPIF out of the AM4, do I run it back into the input as a loop-type deal? Or is it just SPDIF out, into the VP4, into whatever the amplification is?
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My choice has been VP4 S/PDIF out to AM4 S/PDIF in. That lets me use the VP4's stereo input. When combining them, I use an AM4 preset with the amp/cab block first. So I get up to 4 effects before the amp, and up to 3 after. If you want more post-amp effects, swap the order.
 
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laxu said:
I think they might just be made with different goals. I find for example Source Audio to be clearer and more present than my Strymons, but that makes them harder to blend into your base sound without taking most of the sparkle out first. Fractal is somewhere in their own territory.
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Yeah, the SA voicing has great clarity. Which I love, but that doesn't mean everyone else will love it.
 
Same here: VP4 > spdif > AM4

AM4 has drives, amp (4 channels) plus delay/reverb

Exp.pedal on VP4 for wah, whammy, rate.

+ MIDI to switch presets on both devices
 
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