Feedback Request—MIDI on Pedals

[Orvillain]

This is what I use. It's quite beautiful

Right. So... case in point....

These angled ones extend out just as far as a straight one does. So I literally don't see the point in using them.

Here's a rockboard one without the clip, hanging out the back of my Meris LVX.

The Boss one looks like it would take up even more space to be honest.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I guess the thing is here, I never use angled midi plugs.

I just had to, at least here and there. A straight plug simply wouldn't be working for the Stomp in my case.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Here's a rockboard one without the clip, hanging out the back of my Meris LVX.

This is sooo looking as if it'd break as soon as you move things around regularly.

 

[Orvillain]

This is sooo looking as if it'd break as soon as you move things around regularly.

Bought them in 2018 and they've been solid. I think I got my money's worth.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Bought them in 2018 and they've been solid. I think I got my money's worth.

Did you transport things in a tight pedalboard case and do the typical things, such as throwing cases into busses and what not?

 

[Orvillain]

Did you transport things in a tight pedalboard case and do the typical things, such as throwing cases into busses and what not?

Of course.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I'm not sure I get the "directional" comments tbh. I've never had a problem with directionality and midi DIN cables.

The cables that are pre-bent can only have the cable exit in one direction because of the specific nature of 5-pin connectivity, and that direction always seems to have the cable blocking another important port.

Thankfully there appear to be more options than just those One Control, now, but imma still vote 1/4” and call anybody that wants 1/8” looney.

 

[dk_ace]

I don’t know that I should vote, I’ve used midi extensively for years but somehow it’s always been 5 pin. I do find them tricky to use on a pedalboard sometimes but I’ve always managed to find a cable and board layout that worked.

I would not be opposed to a better mousetrap…

D

 

[yeky83]

I’m just trying to imagine how having a board full of adapters and jacks to go from 5-pin to anything else, while going from one MIDI device to the next, is more beneficial for size/efficiency than just planning out “Do I angle this left or right?”

Board full of adapters?! Nah, just one of these which take no real estate at all under the board or under another pedal:

Right. So... case in point....

These angled ones extend out just as far as a straight one does. So I literally don't see the point in using them.

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Here's a rockboard one without the clip, hanging out the back of my Meris LVX.

The Boss one looks like it would take up even more space to be honest.

Case in point for why MIDI cables are horrible, they can’t even make a good right angle jack for it! Thanks for joining the 1/4” club!

 

[DrewJD82]

Board full of adapters?! Nah, just one of these which take no real estate at all under the board or under another pedal:
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Case in point for why MIDI cables are horrible, they can’t even make a good right angle jack for it! Thanks for joining the 1/4” club!

That puts it into the “I need to plug some shit into it to make it do what I want” category. Adding an additional device where a single cable could do the same job isn’t a better solution, IMO, regardless of where it’s placed.

 

[gearJunkie]

This is what I use. It's quite beautiful

and quite expensive, but I have one

 

[yeky83]

That puts it into the “I need to plug some shit into it to make it do what I want” category. Adding an additional device where a single cable could do the same job isn’t a better solution, IMO, regardless of where it’s placed.

If all you needed was a single cable, you didn’t need the additional device to begin with

 

[EOengineer]

I've seen similar ones (a little thicker cables, though)

 

[spawnofthesith]

1/8" 100%


I have up to 6 devices in an 1/8" chain at times. It's really the only thing I wish the HX One had that it doesn't. Still need to order some adaptors to get it going into midi chain

 

[spawnofthesith]

Surprising number of people voting for 1/8"... I don't think y'all have tried to use it.

It's not any smaller cus the jack housing is still the same size. The only argument for it is that it allows pedal makers to make their pedals smaller. That's it. Otherwise it's a pain for pedalboard building.

SO ALL OF YOU 1/8" GUYS CHANGE TO 1/4" RIGHT NOW, WE CAN BEAT THE DIN GUYS

Hard disagree

 

[yeky83]

1/8" 100%


I have up to 6 devices in an 1/8" chain at times. It's really the only thing I wish the HX One had that it doesn't. Still need to order some adaptors to get it going into midi chain

There aren't enough desirable 1/8"-MIDI guitar pedals to have 6 of them in a chain, SYNTH GUY SPOTTED.

 

[spawnofthesith]

There aren't enough desirable 1/8"-MIDI guitar pedals to have 6 of them in a chain, SYNTH GUY SPOTTED.

Sort of lol

Always in the chain: 2x RC500s (me and my bass players), RE-202
Often in the chain: Korg minilogue (probably will eventually have an RC-5 for that relatively soon)

and then a few other korg devices occasionally

 

[Los-D]

“Brenda?”

 

[yeky83]

Sort of lol

Always in the chain: 2x RC500s (me and my bass players), RE-202
Often in the chain: Korg minilogue (probably will eventually have an RC-5 for that relatively soon)

and then a few other korg devices occasionally

So what's your hard disagree, eh?
It's not any smaller cus the jack housing is still the same size. It's actually larger than low-profile 1/4" jacks.

QED

 

[spawnofthesith]

So what's your hard disagree, eh?
It's not any smaller cus the jack housing is still the same size. It's actually larger than low-profile 1/4" jacks.
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QED

I see your point but its not smaller width wise

I've never ran into issues with the 1/8th" connections. On the flipside, when I'm setting up my board at a show or practice and I'm not getting sound and I have to go through the chain and find out what is slightly unplugged its almost always one of the pedals that I'm using several ins and outs in (hx one, rc500 namely) and having even more 1/4" cables coming out of those boxes. 1/8" feels far less congested to me

But we can at least agree that even 1/4" would be preferable to 5pin