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Kemper is an all in one product, no? In that specific sense, it offers a lot more than NAM and Tonex.
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Do you think Kemper profiling MKII will fix these issues?
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Kemper is an all in one product, no? In that specific sense, it offers a lot more than NAM and Tonex.
Sascha Franck
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Did I miss something? Where can I obtain that IR?
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Add to this that the TXO with a capture loaded comes with an RTL of around 1.5ms (seems to depend a bit on the capture), allowing it to be combined with pretty much any other half decent digital unit without crossing any latency threshold lines that quickly. Can't be said for all those Asian boxes. The Valeton GP-5 (possibly the best out of the smaller ones) kicks in with something over 5ms already. Run 2 devices serially and you're at 10ms, which is quite not so great under headphones anymore. Run 4 TXOs in series and you're at 6ms. Or, like me, a GT-1000 with two serial digital loops plus the Tonex, still ending up with an RTL number of pretty much exactly 3ms. You get the idea.
The Tonex is good to enhance pretty much any rig and the amount of pretty great captures even available for free is amazing. Sure, not NAM-level amazing - but it's a whole lot easier to sort them out - and the option to do that sorting out in the plugin and then transfer your patches to the hardware is absolutely fantastic (in some aspects it's even quicker than with the L6 HX ecosystem - sure, it's more limited but plugin and editor presets including IRs being kinda synced automatically is gorgeous).
As an example: I'm planning to build a second small rig just using a TXO and an HX Stomp (and possibly some additional small form factor MIDI foot controller for a semi-advanced version of that). Overall latency with the TXO in the Stomp's loop would still be less than 4.5ms. Add some of these Builty devices (PM Pico or built from whomever) and a small MIDI controller for a somewhat larger (or rather extended per situation) and you'd have an almost insanely competent setup (or get a Stomp XL).
The HX Stomp can be found used for around €450, a TXO is around €160, the Pico-kinda device might set you short another €100, same for, say, a Hotone Ampero Control (wired MIDI is a better choice for controlling both the Stomp and the TXO) for another €100, a decent PSU for another €100 and a DIY pedalboard for next to nothing (or go for a HB Spaceship Power 40, which would leave some room for EXP pedals and what not, PSU included) and your overall cost would stil be just around €900.
If you'd deal with it as I would, you'd only switch patches on the TXO and keep the Stomp at one preset per gig and only switch things on/off there. This would give you instant switching (there's literally no gap in the TXO's switching) and reverb/delay spillover.
I just created a prospective live patch, the Stomp running one drive, one EQ, two modulations, two delays and one reverb. That's all I'd ever need for pretty much any single gig (I might exchange one or the other blocks depending on the gig). Might add a wah and an EXP to taste.
Ah well, that would actually belong in the Tonex thread, but it goes to show what the TXO can do in combination with other devices.
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Haha, great that you mention it - because I was scratching my head over that small but incredibly obvious detail myself already.
Let's just assume it's the tasty Grappa. Or the Ferrari sound next to their headquarters in Modena.
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Still not one decent live device but the Dimehead thing (which I won't consider for several reasons).
Dimiguitar
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Not NAM level amazing in what sense?
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It slaughters NAM and a computer in ease of use, user experience, and reliability for starters. If you want to deal with laptops, operating systems, external midi etc. sure you can get near unlimited flexibility and options, but it sucks to use. NAM is great for the computer geek guitarist at home or the studio. It is acceptable for the computer geek guitarist live. For everyone else, there is a LONG way to go.
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There are likely people on this forum who have done worse, we just don't know about it.
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Just because there's more NAM profiles around. But then, there's probably also more garbage among them. Given how easy it is to roll your own (compared to creating Tonex captures) ever since Tone3000 opened its doors, I could imagine the signal-to-noise ration being less than ideal.
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You mean those that have silently sold their Stomps?
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Hmmm. I haven't looked at any numbers but my impression is the opposite. When I do a search for free captures of something specific I get way more results in Tonex than NAM, and when I look at paid captures it's even more skewed towards Tonex. My impression would be that there is more current vendor support for Tonex now than any other capture platform, not including the old legacy library for Kemper.
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Shhhh!
Sascha Franck
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Ok, maybe I was wrong then. I just remember being completely overwhelmed by the amount of NAM captures - and that's even been quite a while back.
Anyhow, as said, sorting captures out is a whole lot easier with Tonex, so maybe that's why it never occured to me that there's all that many.
I've been using computers last twenty years. Zero problems with reliability. Operating systems? Zero problems: I use both macOS and Windows. The secret is: once you configure everything - don't update. If you do update (once a year) - test thoroughly. Backup.
I first use DAWs to host plugins, but live plugin hosts proved to do the task better than DAWs.
Once NAM came out, that was a blessing. Combine that with custom plugins (Outer Space), parallel plugin chains, ... and minimal latency - you can do miracles.
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Ah yes. But let's say you have some NAM captures you like, you can also easily capture them with tonex. The best free captures I've seen have all come from NAM, but I wanted them in hardware -- so I just captured them, among my own.
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Sure. Just takes ages with my Macbook Air.
Dimiguitar
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I mostly use a MacBook air M1 with 8gb ram. Leave it overnight to process captures. But often enough it hasn't even finished the process by morning lel
Sascha Franck
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Well, I actually don't feel I need much anymore, now that I have all the stuff from the groupbuy and from Tonex Max. Plus then some from ToneNET. The most important patches I wanted are sorted already (clean clean, pedal platform clean, classic Marshall, classic Dumble-ish), so anything else would be just a bonus anyway.
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I’d be interested in seeing a walk back of his apology, I haven’t come across that as of yet.
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