BluGuitar Amp X

The pay to play model works for Tonex because they sell cheap throwaway pedals as the carrier device. It works for Neural because they make videos of dudes playing their shit in furry purple sandals by the pool plugins have stand alone value and utility.

I can’t imagine dropping 2k to then essentially be forced to buy all of the other amps. I admire the dudes passion and enthusiasm, but he’s losing the plot on this one.
 
Maybe if they could get the thing out the door this century they wouldn’t be burning so much capital as to necessitate a business model that’s going to dead in the water right out of the gate.

Most guitarists are not going to be willing to roll the dice on a $2k device with paywalls. Just ask Kemper.
Fan boys will but yea average guys won’t bother and be turned off by having to pay for stuff after dropping 2k$+ it’s a bummer.
 
Tiny bit of news from BluGuitar's recently Q&A stream (not related to Amp X).

"When the Amp X launches you will see some amp models from my amp collection besides the Amp 1 Mercury and Iridium."

No other context.

I hope that means it comes with some of Blug's vintage amps.
 
Tiny bit of news from BluGuitar's recently Q&A stream (not related to Amp X).

"When the Amp X launches you will see some amp models from my amp collection besides the Amp 1 Mercury and Iridium."

No other context.

I hope that means it comes with some of Blug's vintage amps.
That would help the unit be a little bit more well-received; $2K for a box that only gets you the stuff in the Mercury + Iridium (which both together are less than $2K) is a hard pill to swallow any other way.
 
That would help the unit be a little bit more well-received; $2K for a box that only gets you the stuff in the Mercury + Iridium (which both together are less than $2K) is a hard pill to swallow any other way.
Well you do get the effects too. There will be some I have not seen emulated anywhere else like the H&K Replex, and some real analog effects too. So you get a full pedalboard of analog and digital fx, plus two 4 channel amps (at least), plus a great poweramp you can plug direct into a guitar cab.

But I do agree, having additional amp models will help with the value proposition.
 
Well you do get the effects too. There will be some I have not seen emulated anywhere else like the H&K Replex, and some real analog effects too. So you get a full pedalboard of analog and digital fx, plus two 4 channel amps (at least), plus a great poweramp you can plug direct into a guitar cab.

But I do agree, having additional amp models will help with the value proposition.
That's also a bit unclear - which and how many effects are included at purchase.
 
This is from 3 weeks ago:

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.., and a reply from Thomas he made 2 days ago to one of the comments:

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You can do this on the Amp 1 units using the internal power soak accessible via MIDI. The Amp X instead just gives you a knob for it which you can use whenever in a more intuitive way.

Personally I rarely use the powersoak. Not because it doesn't sound good but because I feel the Amp 1 tones don't need to be cranked to sound great.
 
I had forgotten this was a thing.
I remember my bandmate talking about it being THE NEXT BIG THING. Years ago. He's had a Helix, a ToneX and a FM3 since. He bought a JVM, tried to sell a Powerball, acquired multiple Neural plugins in the span since.

It was such a long wait. I can't think of anyone waiting for it still outside of the content creatures.

At the same time: I like TB and I also would like to be wrong. Just release it, ffs.
 
In terms of project management and communication handling, this is just an epic fail.
Yes, Blug seems to be a pretty nice guy, but he shouldn't have done the PR things here.
Apparently he got so excited about his new baby (understandable) that he had to get the news out of the door without some pretty essential issues being adressed beforehand. When you promise something to be "almost there", the core technical issues should be solved already, at least the main framework should be pretty much bulletproof already. That very clearly hasn't been the case.

One of the huge mistakes possibly has been that he kinda announced "analog modeling", as in being able to deliver pretty much any classic amp tone in one single unit without using digital components in the dry signal path. Not only is that like dragging you into a corner you can't escape from anymore, it's also an incredibly tough task, especially in case you have high standards. Oh, that Vox sound isn't just right yet again? Time for another hardware revision whereas in the digital realm it'd just be some lines of code.

Add to this that over the years this took, the average quality of digital modelers got a lot better. Even some pretty cheap devices produce very convincing tones by now. The very same devices are packed with features. And when you look at the higher ended bracket, there's now things such as the HX Stadium. Which, from all I would imagine given the currently available information, would munch the AmpX for breakfast, especially as I also happen to think that the UI on the thing sucks (we've been talking about standard pots vs. endless encoders already).
The only things in favour of the AmpX would be a) that it's analog (but who really cares these days?) and b) that the dry path would have no latency (but again, who cares about 2-4ms of total latency?).

So, what's the target audience? Does Blug expect some analog afficionados to get rid of their existing rigs? That very likely isn't going to happen, at least not much. Or does he expect being able to compete with digital modelers? That's even less likely, especially given that the thing certainly won't come for cheap.
We can only hope for the dude that he's sorted financially, because AmpX will very likely never be able to even just recoup all the R&D costs, let alone be profitable.
 
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