Behringer Klone

[Dave Lewis]

Statute of limitations for a case like this in the USA is between 2-6 years. How long has Behringer’s model been on the market?

It was released back end of last year 2024.
When I said it’s been to long ,
I meant there’s been shed loads of copies released over the last decade or so.
Behringers Legal team will pull the claims to bits eventually if and when it ever gets to court??
Notice all the Behringer pedals have sold out yet again everywhere
Wonder if there is even a law suite and not just a big marketing exorcize between both players ???

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I meant there’s been shed loads of copies released over the last decade or so.
Behringers Legal team will pull the claims to bits eventually if and when it ever gets to court??

Name one other Klone that copied the trade dress and the name? You can't protect a circuit, the other copies of the circuits are irrelevant. Names and trade dress you absolutely can protect.

 

[norminal]

I meant there’s been shed loads of copies released over the last decade or so

I’m not aware of any other manufacturer that copied their name and logo 1:1.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I’m not aware of any other manufacturer that copied their name and logo 1:1.

He won't answer either of our posts. He just spouts nonsense in situations like this and then goes silent. The only other possibility is he'll call me a cunt or a dickhead and then go silent.

 

[norminal]

Companies like Gibson have sued other guitar manufacturers for way less and won.

 

[Dave Lewis]

Earlier today I was remembering the first time I saw and heard an original Klon round Jeff Becks .
He couldn’t make up his mind to use one or two on some tracks he was working on ?
I said why ask me I’m just a drummer but I do like two.
He then said I will get another and try three.
I know who has that third one and cherishes to this day

 

[Dave Lewis]

Companies like Gibson have sued other guitar manufacturers for way less and won.

Tigers in Africa?
I would believe it more if it was April 1st.
Something really smells of a marketing deal hear??
He hasn’t got the money to even think about taking on Behringer ??
Jezz if some no pay no win company is taking this on ??

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

That’s not going to happen .
He’s left it far to long and it will cost him to much to fight in any court in the land.
It’s like Fender trying to start a legal battle with every company on the planet that builds and sells a Strat & Tele style guitar.s
You have more chance of Marvin Gayes Sister winning a case of someone copying one bar of a Marvin Gay song used on one

You don't see any of those Strat off tele copies with the word Stratocaster or telecaster on them, nor do you see them with headstocks that are the same shape as Fender's. Because...those are the things Fender has trademarks on; not the body shapes, scale length, etc.

There's no reason for a case like this to become wildly expensive. There aren't expert witnesses or anything. Given how bold Behringer has used the name and exact image it's not like Klon needs to go on a wild discovery expedition. I'm sure they'll plan to file a motion for summary judgment and short circuit trial all together with the only legit defense Behringer has is invalidity of the mark. That's not a nothing burger defense, but...it is often a matter of law ripe for summary judgement without need for a trial.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

He hasn’t got the money to even think about taking on Behringer ??

Why is this going to cost him lot's of money? He's the plaintiff. How is it in Behringer's interest to piss that kind of money down the drain...to sell a few thousand overdrive pedals?

 

[norminal]

Why is this going to cost him lot's of money? He's the plaintiff. How is it in Behringer's interest to piss that kind of money down the drain...to sell a few thousand overdrive pedals?

Exactly.

 

[Dave Lewis]

You don't see any of those Strat off tele copies with the word Stratocaster or telecaster on them, nor do you see them with headstocks that are the same shape as Fender's. Because...those are the things Fender has trademarks on; not the body shapes, scale length, etc.

There's no reason for a case like this to become wildly expensive. There aren't expert witnesses or anything. Given how bold Behringer has used the name and exact image it's not like Klon needs to go on a wild discovery expedition. I'm sure they'll plan to file a motion for summary judgment and short circuit trial all together with the only legit defense Behringer has is invalidity of the mark. That's not a nothing burger defense, but...it is often a matter of law ripe for summary judgement without need for a trial.

I’m not aware of any other manufacturer that copied their name and logo 1:1.

There have been loads of exact Chinese copies kits and built versions on eBay Ali express & TEMU for years ??

 

[nicolasrivera]

Coca Cola should sue Papsi for using the same color.

 

[JiveTurkey]

#FreeUli

 

[Dave Lewis]

Oh no Spot the missing ?? With a bow ?

All of these are outstanding pedals

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Oh no Spot the missing ?? With a bow ?
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All of these are outstanding pedals

Of course they're outstanding pedals. They copied an outstanding circuit. What none of the pedals in the above photo did, however, was copy exactly a registered mark.

 

[Dave Lewis]

All Behringer have to do with there next production run If they are that bothered ? Is do what Roger Waters did to the giant Pink Floyd Inflatable Pig after he lost his court case .
He added a knob because the original was a female and carried on as normal

 

[norminal]

Oh no Spot the missing ?? With a bow ?
View attachment 45674
All of these are outstanding pedals

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt as you obviously don’t understand United States Trademark laws. This is not dissimilar to say, a company like Suhr naming their Classic-S “Stratocaster.”

 

[SillyOctpuss]

There have been loads of exact Chinese copies kits and built versions on eBay Ali express & TEMU for years ??

That's not remotely the same. Just like Chibsons none of those are for sale in guitar center which is why neither Gibson or Bill Finnegan are issuing legal paperwork on either Chibson or the fake Klons on Aliexpress.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

All Behringer have to do with there next production run If they are that bothered ? Is do what Roger Waters did to the giant Pink Floyd Inflatable Pig after he lost his court case .
He added a knob because the original was a female and carried on as normal
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I haven't read the complaint, but a (very) cursory search of registered marks owned by Klon LLC shows it's literally just the names Klon and Centaur. So yeah, Behringer can get around this really easy by making changes. But..they could have, ya know, called it literally anything other than Centaur, and never gotten in this mess in the first place. So now, at best, they're going to have to pay attorneys to respond to what, on its face, is a very legitimate complaint. At worst they have to pay attorneys to respond AND pay a whole bunch of damages and/or settlement cost. On top of just doing what they obviously should have done to begin with. Because there is no way that using the name "Centaur" vs. "Shentaur" is going to give them enough additional profits to justify the cost they are going to shoulder in dealing with this.

 

[Dave Lewis]

Of course they're outstanding pedals. They copied an outstanding circuit. What none of the pedals in the above photo did, however, was copy exactly a registered mark.

The old Ancient Greek pictures and name ploy your honor?
Yes I agree We England should give Greece back the Elgin Mables because they are rightfully there's.
I don’t care what the football team says