Any suggestions/solutions to getting a 22 fret neck humbucker sound on a 24fret guitar?

[jco5055]

Hi,

I discovered a few months back that I really prefer the sound of neck humbucker in 22 fret guitars, to where I can’t unhear the differences compared to 24 fret guitars- and I definitely prefer the 22.

I know it comes down to physics/pick up location, but I’ve seen/tried suggestions online; and the only solution I’ve found that is close enough for my tastes is a dual rail single coil sized humbucker (think the track rails pickups by dimarzio). That however still means only HS or HSS guitars work for this for me, and I’d like to still have the option of HH or HSH guitars.

Any suggestions? Some other suggestions I’ve seen (which I haven’t had the chance to try/listen to first hand are the following)

-dimarzio gravity storm neck humbucker (I’ve also emailed dimarzio for suggestions and waiting on their reply)
-a Seymour Duncan bluesbucker
-any pickup that has “way stronger screw coils then slug coils” but pickup companies don’t exactly list that usually
- an Instrumental Decomp

Thanks!

 

[Eagle]

Hi,

I discovered a few months back that I really prefer the sound of neck humbucker in 22 fret guitars, to where I can’t unhear the differences compared to 24 fret guitars- and I definitely prefer the 22.

I know it comes down to physics/pick up location, but I’ve seen/tried suggestions online; and the only solution I’ve found that is close enough for my tastes is a dual rail single coil sized humbucker (think the track rails pickups by dimarzio). That however still means only HS or HSS guitars work for this for me, and I’d like to still have the option of HH or HSH guitars.

Any suggestions? Some other suggestions I’ve seen (which I haven’t had the chance to try/listen to first hand are the following)

-dimarzio gravity storm neck humbucker (I’ve also emailed dimarzio for suggestions and waiting on their reply)
-a Seymour Duncan bluesbucker
-any pickup that has “way stronger screw coils then slug coils” but pickup companies don’t exactly list that usually
- an Instrumental Decomp

Thanks!

Not really possible . The single coil size piece comes with its own compromise too. The physical size makes the magnetic field different. Just find a pickup that you like and accept the position is different.

 

[Piing]

Not exactly possible, as Eagle has said, but you have mentioned my two favorite neck pickups: Dimarzio Gravity Storm, and Dimarzio (not Seymour Duncan) Bluesbucker (with a EP1108 3-position on-on-on DPDT switch, to select the three Series/Single-Coil/Parallel options).

Both split-coil nicely

 

[Solarflares]

Agree.
Just accept it for what it is, and get the best from it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Tune down to D standard, use capo in 2nd fret.

SCNR...

 

[Solarflares]

Tune down to D standard, use capo in 2nd fret.

SCNR...

Ingenious.
Shame it doesn’t quite work like that.

Tuning and Temperament

 

[Sascha Franck]

Ingenious.
Shame it doesn’t quite work like that.

Fwiw, I'm perfectly aware. Doesn't have much to do with tuning and temperament, though (if at all).

 

[Solarflares]

I’m quite simply not fucking doing this again.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I’m quite simply not fucking doing this again.

Oh, so you're a secondary account? WCB then.

 

[Solarflares]

 

[Sascha Franck]

I sincerely apologize for the extra "C". Comes at the house's expense, though, so don't worry.

 

[jco5055]

I do realize even my dual blade examples aren’t going to 100% match a 22 fretter; just that’s the only thing I’ve found where I’m ok with it close enough.

 

[Los-D]

Hi,

I discovered a few months back that I really prefer the sound of neck humbucker in 22 fret guitars, to where I can’t unhear the differences compared to 24 fret guitars- and I definitely prefer the 22.

I know it comes down to physics/pick up location, but I’ve seen/tried suggestions online; and the only solution I’ve found that is close enough for my tastes is a dual rail single coil sized humbucker (think the track rails pickups by dimarzio). That however still means only HS or HSS guitars work for this for me, and I’d like to still have the option of HH or HSH guitars.

Any suggestions? Some other suggestions I’ve seen (which I haven’t had the chance to try/listen to first hand are the following)

-dimarzio gravity storm neck humbucker (I’ve also emailed dimarzio for suggestions and waiting on their reply)
-a Seymour Duncan bluesbucker
-any pickup that has “way stronger screw coils then slug coils” but pickup companies don’t exactly list that usually
- an Instrumental Decomp

Thanks!

NOT a 22-fret sound, but I’ve found multiple DiMarzio Petrucci models (i.e. Liquifire) do a good job of removing a lot of the neck pickup “sweetness” I find with 24-fret guitars and add “girth” to the tone. YMMV.

(And yes, “that’s what she said”, yada yada)

 

[jco5055]

NOT a 22-fret sound, but I’ve found multiple DiMarzio Petrucci models (i.e. Liquifire) do a good job of removing a lot of the neck pickup “sweetness” I find with 24-fret guitars and add “girth” to the tone. YMMV.

(And yes, “that’s what she said”, yada yada)

yeah I've definitely seen the suggestion of Petrucci neck models, especially the Liquidfire, to be basically "if you don't like this sound no HB will be good enough for you" if you want the 22 fret sound.