Amps I don't need and can't afford: Diezel Herbert

[FuzzyAce]

Dibs on #3!

For the right price we'll make it happen..

 

[Sleezy E]

For the right price we'll make it happen..

 

[la szum]

I had one and got rid. Didn’t need it either

What I found weird was while I had it, everyone who played it in the room lost their mind over it. When I wasn’t playing it I thought it sounded better than when I was the one playing it. It has a really unique feel that you either like or you don’t.

It has this insane power and thickness that makes single notes feel like chords. It also is so compressed that it evens everything out. Both of those can make an amp quite flattering but if you really want to control your own dynamics it doesn’t give you much to work with.

Despite not really digging it, I did enjoy that it has a distinctive sound and the 180W headroom is really cool to hear and experience in the room for yourself. It really does just sound like it was invented for Korn and low tunings, with ultra clean effecty stuff in between the heaviness.

Tonally, I can’t say I liked it. Stuffy/fuzzy/bloated/lacking bite. Not for me

Tone Boner Eradicator!!!

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[ejecta]

It has a really unique feel that you either like or you don’t.

I would concur. It’s modern high gain compressed but not in a typical way.

 

[Mikael Dez]

I'm glad my kids are all past 16 so I don't have to have that conversation. "Sorry; you can't have a car. Dad needs another high gain amp!"

Mine is 11, so I gotta keep that in mind here soon

 

[Mikael Dez]

What I found weird was while I had it, everyone who played it in the room lost their mind over it. When I wasn’t playing it I thought it sounded better than when I was the one playing it. It has a really unique feel that you either like or you don’t.

I feel like this is the case with every guitarist and every amp brand - we all gravitate towards the brands of amps that we get the sound out of in our heads, and sometimes our playing style doesn’t jive with how an amp shines

 

[EOengineer]

I played the OG Herbert for about 15 mins at NAMM in 2003-ish with Mr Diezel standing over my shoulder tweaking things.

It was neat but different than anything I’d played through at that time. Dry, compressed, fuzzy. I wasn’t floored.

 

[gearJunkie]

alongside that price tag

Maybe you could request a Crab Sherbet amp build ...

 

[AFKAEjay(retired)]

that Diezel power amp I am betting is doing a TON of influencing of the overall tone and experience with the amp.

In my mind poweramps operated within their headroom…sound very very simular.
If you have a couple of amps with loops…try 1 preamp into different returns into the same cab…

 

[JiveTurkey]

In my mind poweramps operated within their headroom…sound very very simular.
If you have a couple of amps with loops…try 1 preamp into different returns into the same cab…

180 watts of el34 headroom is probably pretty insane though

 

[AFKAEjay(retired)]

180 watts of el34 headroom is probably pretty insane though

Whut? (Sorry, you have to speak louder then my tinnitus)

Anyway..,yeah it is..what’s in there…6 6l6…or 8?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

180 watts of el34 headroom is probably pretty insane though

the hedonistic days of the late 90’s/early 2000’s

 

[Sleezy E]

the hedonistic days of the late 90’s/early 2000’s

 

[Aelred]

It's always interesting to look at what you guys in the US lust for, vs what we here in Europe drool over.

Based on this forum, European amps that are of interest are Diezels, Marshalls, ENGL, maybe a bit of Hughes&Kettner.

Over here we lust for Mesa Boogie, Tone King, Soldano, Friedman etc.

In EU the Diezels obviously aren't cheap either, but the VH4 and Herbert Mk III are 2899 € each, VH2 is 1899 €.
Versus Mesa Mark VII at an eye watering 4444 €.

And here I am in Australia... where everything mentioned is expensive and often unavailable.

Only $7500 for a Mesa Mark VII combo or head (same price) - if it was available to order.

Diezel Herbert head is $8000 - if it was available to order.

There's a chance on a Mesa by 2026.

 

[AFKAEjay(retired)]

And here I am in Australia... where everything mentioned is expensive and often unavailable.

Only $7500 for a Mesa Mark VII combo or head (same price) - if it was available to order.

Diezel Herbert head is $8000 - if it was available to order.

There's a chance on a Mesa by 2026.

Those are silly prices!
Is everything that high relatively? Or are there brands comparably priced to eu/us where you at?
MIC stuff maybe?

 

[Aelred]

Australian prices. Roughly double anything you see in EU or USA.

We used to be told that because Australia is so far away from everywhere we had to pay more for freight. That hasn't been true for decades with shipping containers and shipping everwhere and Asia being close - but the price gouging continues unabated.

We also used to get a lot of rubbish/rejects dumped on our shores for full price.

 

[gearJunkie]

Those are silly prices!
Is everything that high relatively? Or are there brands comparably priced to eu/us where you at?
MIC stuff maybe?

I suspect he's quoting the prices in Australian dollars.

$7500 aud ~ $4762 usd
$8000 aud ~ $5079 usd

 

[Aelred]

I also get paid in Australian dollars.

 

[ejecta]

Just ordered 3.

Go big or go three.