Ampero 2 gets captures

[Tito83]

Capture process 100% done with the unit itself. Seems pretty solid.

 

[banned]

I don't have any interest in captures - but that unit looks cool. How're the rest of the modeled amps and FX? Interface looks nice enough.

 

[Tito83]

I don't have any interest in captures - but that unit looks cool. How're the rest of the modeled amps and FX? Interface looks nice enough.

I'm interested in the idea I can have a good approximation of my UA pedals in a convenient not so expensive package, mainly for gigging.

Never tried myself, but a friend had one for a while he borrowed from a student and he liked the amps, but wasn't impressed by the effects in general. This was right after launch, don't know if there was any meaningful update on that front.

 

[GTR37]

I don't have any interest in captures - but that unit looks cool. How're the rest of the modeled amps and FX? Interface looks nice enough.

IMO I would say modelling pretty close to a Helix sound wise
Very good effects rev delay
Pitch not so great
Interface again this is just me
But one of the best , especially at the price point

 

[Alex Kenivel]

Pretty damn cool

 

[aivoryuk]

If you watch the Leo Gibson video the tone catch compares well against the likes of Kemper, quad cortex and tonex

 

[JiveTurkey]

Ampero>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mooer.

 

[Tito83]

If you watch the Leo Gibson video the tone catch compares well against the likes of Kemper, quad cortex and tonex

Actually missed that comparison. Ampero seems to really hold against the big boys. The idea I can profile my UA pedals and basically have them available as presets + effects for gigs at a moderate price is really attractive. If I see a good Black Friday deal I may order one.

 

[EOengineer]

I have zero interest in the Ampero but I do wonder how many of the budget friendly options end up with capture support in some form over the next year or two, and more importantly whether that pressures some of the white glove holdouts (fractal/L6) to wade into the tech.

I understand the resistance, but I believe they are still operating under the faulty premise that black box modeling competes with white glove when in reality capture tech supports a totally different use case - musicians capturing THEIR gear.

Eventually capture players will be just another block in every digital processor out there - like modulation or reverb.

 

[Sedaxel]

New Leo Gibson video shows that RTL latency has been much improved. Now it stays at around 3 and 5 ms with internal cabs and effects. That´s a huge improvement, and now they are in the same league as the "good" units.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Ampero>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mooer.

They’re not just stealing each other’s stolen software back and forth? The GE1000 is an intriguing piece of hardware.

 

[JiveTurkey]

They’re not just stealing each other’s stolen software back and forth? The GE1000 is an intriguing piece of hardware.

I'm just not sure. And can't quite muster up the care? I might end up with a HoTone something or other maybe for "fun"?

 

[ian_dissonance]

I'm just not sure. And can't quite muster up the care? I might end up with a HoTone something or other maybe for "fun"?

That’s kind of where I’m at with a few of these Amazon specials. If the GE1000 does momentary switching I could leave my Helix at home for floor shows.

 

[laxu]

I have zero interest in the Ampero but I do wonder how many of the budget friendly options end up with capture support in some form over the next year or two, and more importantly whether that pressures some of the white glove holdouts (fractal/L6) to wade into the tech.

I'd wager all of them. It requires relatively little DSP, it shortcuts all the R&D of having to figure out how an amp works, and the intended userbase is just happy to have good amp tones rather than obsessing over if knobs work accurately.

I understand the resistance, but I believe they are still operating under the faulty premise that black box modeling competes with white glove when in reality capture tech supports a totally different use case - musicians capturing THEIR gear.

Most capture users do not capture their own gear. I'd say it's most likely a fairly small group who buy capture devices specifically for that purpose.

Eventually capture players will be just another block in every digital processor out there - like modulation or reverb.

Maybe, but will it be the thing most people use, if there's an equally good sounding Amp block? I feel it's a bit of an interim tech that will be surpassed by either parametric captures or something else.

 

[KHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!]

I understand the resistance, but I believe they are still operating under the faulty premise that black box modeling competes with white glove when in reality capture tech supports a totally different use case - musicians capturing THEIR gear.

I don't view it as a faulty premise. I see it as a developer making the product they want to. I remember Cliff saying he was not a big fan of captures. But who knows what he's got up his sleeve.

 

[EOengineer]

I'd wager all of them. It requires relatively little DSP, it shortcuts all the R&D of having to figure out how an amp works, and the intended userbase is just happy to have good amp tones rather than obsessing over if knobs work accurately.


Most capture users do not capture their own gear. I'd say it's most likely a fairly small group who buy capture devices specifically for that purpose.


Maybe, but will it be the thing most people use, if there's an equally good sounding Amp block? I feel it's a bit of an interim tech that will be surpassed by either parametric captures or something else.

I’d venture to guess there’s a fair amount of stuff under the Helix umbrella (just using L6 as an example) that very few people use but gets included and maintained just the same. Synths, loopers, etc are all kind of niche features.

I do agree captures are not really mature tech at this point and can’t fault someone from being concerned about early adoption. That hasn’t stopped the competition though.

 

[Tito83]

Not mature tech? Kemper was release in 2012. 12 years later most top tier units today already have it, L6 and Fractal being the outliers. It got easy enough to replicate it has trickled down to units that cost less than a hundred dollars.