Amp where we're at

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Is the ‘Amp where we’re at’ thing our curse filter shenanigans? Cuz I’m gonna laugh my ass off if those shenanigans prevent a product from being discussed by it’s actual name.

Anywho, I’m skeptical of anything that is still using the same 2-speaker setup while claiming it’s conquering the Amp In The Turd thing. I don’t believe this will be resolved by anything but adding some kind of speakers to a room. Like 4 little cubes mounted on stands that sit in the corner of a room and the only thing that comes out of them is all the Amp In The Turd sounds, not the amp sound itself.

I thought I saw some tech before that was basically a sheet of plastic/vinyl material that carried sound waves down it, basically looking like a flat piece of plastic. Maybe I’m making it up in my head, if I am, someone should make it and call it an Ambience Curtain. It can also double as a backdrop for bands; you put it behind the band like a normal backdrop, but you have to plug it into something that has it generate ambient room sounds for bands going direct. There, I just solved the problem, someone go make it so.
 
They've created an ambience knob.
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I want it to sound like an amp in the room.

Well use an amp.

I don’t want to use an amp.

Well you can’t get the amp in the room feel without using an amp.

But it’s playback system right?

Ok then use a cab.

But then I need a power amp and a cab.

Well do you want to do this shit or not?

Maybe, but what about a room reverb, that will give it a sense of space.

Your modeler doesn’t already have a room reverb?

Yes, but it doesn’t make it feel like using an amp.

That’s because you aren’t using an amp Daryl.

But amps are for old timers though.

Then what are you simulating in your modeler?

Well, an amp.

So what’s wrong with an amp?

Well nothing, but I need it to fit in my purse.

I’m going to lunch Daryl.


Every amp-in-your-cavity discussion since 2017.
 
When do people realize that the miracle thing called Amp In The Turd (I'm honestly sick of this acronym in the digital guitar world) really is just a trickery on reverb and panning??
If you want the sound of something loud in the room then do it properly and LOUD, there's no way around.. And if you can't do that due to excessive volume, noise complaints etc. then you have to rely on reverb.

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When do people realize that the miracle thing called Amp In The Turd (I'm honestly sick of this acronym in the digital guitar world) really is just a trickery on reverb and panning??

yeah big recorded guitar tones are half or more studio room sound, it's just majority of reverb devices are designed for large space ambience, it's harder to get small space synthetic ambience to fool the ear. I just dig when developers put focus on that small space like line 6 dynamic ambience or this THU module. the good synthetic 15-feet-of-space-around-the-microphone-sound on the backend is like a compressor pedal on the front end, it's what keeps me playing and playing and playing. panning / stereo is a big part of it too, on the Fractal cab block I can put the same IR on a second slot and pan them hard left and right and somehow it's night and day difference in how it sounds through headphones compared to the same IR in mono centered. the tiniest bit of stereo width makes all the difference to realism
 
When do people realize that the miracle thing called Amp In The Turd (I'm honestly sick of this acronym in the digital guitar world) really is just a trickery on reverb and panning??
Wait, how does that trick work? Honest question.

I'm quite happy with my Helix LT amps sounds (never missed that amp in the room thing), but I'm always open to trying these kind of tweaks.
 
Wait, how does that trick work? Honest question.

I'm quite happy with my Helix LT amps sounds (never missed that amp in the room thing), but I'm always open to trying these kind of tweaks.

You turn on the reverb ;)

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Well realistically you "can't" get this with a Helix LT anyway since you're hearing the sound of an amp AND microphone used - but I refuse to dig deeper in this conundrum :bag You're not missing out on anything honestly. Play louder to get some air moving and use reverb to your taste, that's it. You can also use stereo panning or some kind of stereo doubler plugin (Neural DSP plugins have this for example) to make the sound "bigger" and "better". You most definitely wouldn't want to record with this sound, it's just for your own enjoyment.

EDIT: I just had renovations done in one of my rooms and my small desktop practice amp reverberates like crazy over there since it's just a hard floor and four empty walls. Somewhat of a similar feeling I guess. I can "feel" the amp all around me in the room.
 
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