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I post about shit I have no intention of ever buying all the time.When’s the last time you considered that when buying an electronics device?
I post about shit I have no intention of ever buying all the time.When’s the last time you considered that when buying an electronics device?
I'm not speaking from the consumer's standpoint here. (It never seemed realistic to me that this would make it into consumer sales channels.) I'm just talking about whether the exorbitant price tag makes the guy's efforts/ skills/ results any less impressive. I can be pretty forgiving about the price when I figure that a. the guy probably isn't expecting to compete with Line 6 et al, and b. he probably spent years working on something with the expectation of hand building a dozen of them.When’s the last time you considered that when buying an electronics device?
See also Tone X? But why are we going out of our way to set the bar so low?Also - while tye Atomic Amplifire series does have tone stack knobs, aside from that, the only real UI difference is that instead of joystick navigation amongst a few panels you have to just…keep clicking that button until you get to a menu. And then do similar for sub menus. In other words … the UI on this thing is a step UP in a lot of ways by comparison.
Because those products are evidence that this thing isn’t effectively dead without a better Ui as a lot of posts suggest?See also Tone X? But why are we going out of our way to set the bar so low?
I take your point. Then again, see JiveTurkey's counterpoint.Because those products are evidence that this thing isn’t effectively dead without a better Ui as a lot of posts suggest?
Also - while tye Atomic Amplifire series does have tone stack knobs, aside from that, the only real UI difference is that instead of joystick navigation amongst a few panels you have to just…keep clicking that button until you get to a menu. And then do similar for sub menus. In other words … the UI on this thing is a step UP in a lot of ways by comparison.
See also Tone X? But why are we going out of our way to set the bar so low?
Don't make me post my Kingpin "wasn't that bad" meme again.IMO, apart from the annoyance that you can't easily access the second level parameters and apart from the encoders not being endless ones (which would be a way more elegant solution), I don't think the ToneX onboard UI is all that bad. Pretty much all of the most commonly used parameters are exposed all the time, which IMO is a good thing.
As I said, the point was just to note that this wasn’t the singular worst UI that everyone was making it out to be.Yeah well, apart from the ampstack, nobody has ever been raving about the onboard UI of whatever Atomic devices. So that's possibly not exactly the best thing to compare a product to.
I wish we had a separate UI sub forum and any discussion of UI outside that sub forum = automatic ban
No. It doesn’t require that.Well, in that case there should be a separate sound quality sub forum. And discussion of sound quality outside that sub forum would cause a ban as well.
Quid pro quo.
I didn't revisit the thread, so no clue here—just going by memory. If only because I love y'all.I’ve only skimmed through the first few pages of that thread (mainly to see whether I was one of the “dicks”)...
Oh god that f****ing thread. I distinctly remember watching it happen in real time; that was the beginning of my (current) disgust with TGP in general.
I understand the Siva is a bit rough around the edges, but i wonder if any of those morons stopped to watch this:
To recap, this an end-to-end SPICE modelling unit - the only one i'm aware of besides Fractal products. With Wi-Fi audio inputs. USB recording output. Free-form signal paths. A shitton of cabs, effects and models. A single control UX which honestly looks better than some units i've seen people raving about in forums... and it was all put together by a single guy?
My professional background is electronics and software engineering, and i tell you, i was just floored when i saw that video.
Yeah, and also, for those who didn’t see the thread as it was happening: the guy was also replying with quite a bit of cheeky insults and snark of his own, which he later edited or deleted entirely.The only relevant aspect for the product in that thread—beside the poor promotional material—was the guy let his ego get in the way of constructive criticism at the time. Though to his credit in the future he did eventually implement some of the feedback.
No. It doesn’t require that.