Unimpressed with the Unbuffer and Morningstar

Yes, which says they're not making it. They were part in designing it.

The Fender is made in China to a price point, their made in USA equivalent cost almost double, and have quite a few more features.

They were a partner in creating it and it was a miserable device to use even before it failed on me. The whole experience didn’t exactly make me want to rush out and buy any other RJM products
 
They were a partner in creating it and it was a miserable device to use even before it failed on me. The whole experience didn’t exactly make me want to rush out and buy any other RJM products
I have their Mini Line Mixer and Mini Effects Gizmo, most excellent stuff! Much simpler products though.
I'd probably get a Gigrig G3S Atom if I needed such a solution, and had plenty cash
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@DrewJD82 that sounds nerve-wracking...

I use this and can only recommend. It's possible, the trimmer is legit accessible, and it makes my very picky Sound City Range Master sound good even with wireless, despite the latter being meticulously handcrafted with fancy uber rare vintage Hipster NOS components.


Ships from Germany though, so it might not be a viable option for you.
 
@DrewJD82 that sounds nerve-wracking...

I use this and can only recommend. It's possible, the trimmer is legit accessible, and it makes my very picky Sound City Range Master sound good even with wireless, despite the latter being meticulously handcrafted with fancy uber rare vintage Hipster NOS components.


Ships from Germany though, so it might not be a viable option for you.

Yeah, the shipping is almost the same as the cost of the pedal. I saw these the day I ordered the Unbuffer and was going to grab one as well to shoot them out until I saw the shipping fee.
 
That’s so weird, and frustrating. Sorry to hear it’s been such a bad experience for you. I’d be moving on and not looking back too if I was in your position.

I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Morningstar products, but I know that doesn’t mean anything when you’re dealing with the BS you’re going through with yours

I’m sure I just caught a lemon, they’ve got a decent enough reputation and I haven’t really heard any gripes about them in the context of my issues, or any issues I can recall for that matter. I’d imagine I’d have an entirely different experience with a different product of theirs and I’ve had no issues with the MC6 Pro itself. If there were a litany of experiences like mine, well, I wouldn’t have bought it to begin with!
 
I all this time you’ve never bothered to try sticking your fuzz face in front of the fm9 or axe Fx?

Of course, that’s the only way I’ve used them until the last 9 months I got that Plexi50. They sound great in front of them, but that does me no good in an analog rig.
 
I’m sure I just caught a lemon, they’ve got a decent enough reputation and I haven’t really heard any gripes about them in the context of my issues, or any issues I can recall for that matter. I’d imagine I’d have an entirely different experience with a different product of theirs and I’ve had no issues with the MC6 Pro itself. If there were a litany of experiences like mine, well, I wouldn’t have bought it to begin with!

I know you’re probably done with Morningstar (I would be too), but I keep wondering if an ML5 would work since it’s all true-bypass with no buffers…
 
I know you’re probably done with Morningstar (I would be too), but I keep wondering if an ML5 would work since it’s all true-bypass with no buffers…

I am considering a ML5 for exactly that reason. If they only made a lower profile version to fit under a lower board!
 
I know you’re probably done with Morningstar (I would be too), but I keep wondering if an ML5 would work since it’s all true-bypass with no buffers…

The convenience factor of NOT having to re-wire my entire board by sticking a regular ML5 on there is certainly giving me reason to try it out. I’m going to take a break from it for a week and actually enjoy playing guitar again for a bit before making a decision.
 
when I saw Axxess made the Unbuffer- specifically this bit about it-

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I got STOKED!!!
Word to the wise: that kind of device will never work satisfactorily. When the sound/feel of a stompbox - including a Fuzz Face - is heavily dependent on loading the guitar's pickups - as is the FF - the only reliable way to get the desired sound/feel is to plug your guitar directly into the device. That means that the FF must be the first device in your signal chain. If it isn't there is a chance that it will work as expected if and only if every upstream device has has true bypass and is bypassed. The important part is that once there is any active device upstream of the FF, the impedance it is loading is the impedance of the device driving it, not the guitar. The unbuffer has series impedance in its output that represents somebody's idea of a "typical" guitar output impedance, but you can take it to the bank that that impedance is not a match for your guitar/
 
The more I live with a trad board alongside my modeling stuff; the more I just think tap dancing is the way with those types of rigs. Switchers are neat in theory (and for a lot of people in reality) but I would rather just run some cables to the front and some in the loop and just switch things on and off one by one like we used to do in the old days.

Little bit of digital in the loop can go a long way to managing some of these problems but beyond that; I appreciate being the Stupid in the reason for Keeping It Simple catchphrase :ROFLMAO:
 
Word to the wise: that kind of device will never work satisfactorily. When the sound/feel of a stompbox - including a Fuzz Face - is heavily dependent on loading the guitar's pickups - as is the FF - the only reliable way to get the desired sound/feel is to plug your guitar directly into the device. That means that the FF must be the first device in your signal chain. If it isn't there is a chance that it will work as expected if and only if every upstream device has has true bypass and is bypassed. The important part is that once there is any active device upstream of the FF, the impedance it is loading is the impedance of the device driving it, not the guitar. The unbuffer has series impedance in its output that represents somebody's idea of a "typical" guitar output impedance, but you can take it to the bank that that impedance is not a match for your guitar/

Or for any guitar I own, that thing just neutered the shit out of the Fuzz Face no matter what got plugged into it. I had a hunch that’s how it worked, in regard to the Fuzz Face seeing the circuit directly before it, regardless of what came before that circuit.

I find it to be a bit of a bummer this is an Axxess product. Mario’s got a top notch reputation but I would really be interested to hear how this thing sounds in a situation where the user finds it a suitable solution, I’m having a hard time hearing how that’s possible, but obviously individual setups play a huge role here.
 
The more I live with a trad board alongside my modeling stuff; the more I just think tap dancing is the way with those types of rigs. Switchers are neat in theory (and for a lot of people in reality) but I would rather just run some cables to the front and some in the loop and just switch things on and off one by one like we used to do in the old days.

Little bit of digital in the loop can go a long way to managing some of these problems but beyond that; I appreciate being the Stupid in the reason for Keeping It Simple catchphrase :ROFLMAO:

I’m likely going to slap a few pedals on a board and call it my 70’s board or something, nothing more complex than a patch cable. Aside from the couple misfires of switching loops and this fuzz issue, the loop switcher setup is pretty cool, but certainly adds a level of complexity that might be better left up to someone with working knowledge of how to eliminate and prevent all the shit I’ve been running into.
 
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