The Peavey 5150 (OG) Model Thread

[MirrorProfiles]

I'll get around to doing a Rectifier thread (Dez). After checking Genome out, I figured I'd do a bit of 5150 reamping. Yes, this amp has been modelled to death. Some got close quicker than others, most disappointed me in doing what the amp did within about 2 seconds of twiddling knobs.

Clips here, settings used below. The embedded playlist thing stops at 7 tracks so Genome is linked after.

I'll give more thoughts in due course.

 

[deadpool_25]

Despite an extended love affair with the 50w 5153 amps, this is still my favorite amp of all time.

 

[dean701]

are those all through the same IR?
all sound very good.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

are those all through the same IR?
all sound very good.

Yep, same IR. Just guitar->amp->suhr reactive load->IR. No pedals or EQ or anything. Tried to use the most appropriate SIC’s where possible

 

[AlbertA]

Did you use the new Suhr SIC in the Fractal?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Did you use the new Suhr SIC in the Fractal?

Of course.

 

[AlbertA]

That's a good tone, is this your own IR? Where could I get it?

 

[ian_dissonance]

I think Amplitube was the only one where I thought something was quite different. Helix didn’t have something in the lows/low mids.

 

[Dez]

I’ll give this a proper listen later. Is this with that same IR you used in the Diezel comparison?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I’ll give this a proper listen later. Is this with that same IR you used in the Diezel comparison?

Need to double check but I think it might be (pretty sure it’s just my default in Cabinetron). If you fancy including QC (or if anyone else fancies contributing TMP or any other plugins) I can send stuff over.

 

[Dez]

Need to double check but I think it might be (pretty sure it’s just my default in Cabinetron). If you fancy including QC (or if anyone else fancies contributing TMP or any other plugins) I can send stuff over.

The QC doesn’t have the OG 5150 if you don’t count Nolly, which you did!

 

[MirrorProfiles]

The QC doesn’t have the OG 5150 if you don’t count Nolly, which you did!

6505 is the same as a 5150 for all intents and purposes (STL amphub above was a 6505). But yeah, if that sounds similar to Nolly then it’s probably redundant.

 

[newholland]

i remember playing one of the original peaveys when they came out and it was such an insane departure from anything id played in like 1995 that i hated it it had so much gain and the eq seemed so wrong.. i couldnt get any sound out of it i liked. im fairly certain id probably fail miserably at it even now... but i played a 6505 maybe a decade ago and just had a fricken blast riffing. its not my style of amp- but theyre really fun for chunn riffin!

 

[Dez]

6505 is the same as a 5150 for all intents and purposes (STL amphub above was a 6505). But yeah, if that sounds similar to Nolly then it’s probably redundant.

I forgot it has the the 6505

 

[deadpool_25]

I forgot it has the the 6505

PV 505! That’s the one I was using the other day that I was totally loving. I don’t know how “accurate” it is but it was doing the thing well enough.


Also any modeler that doesn’t have a model of the 5150/6505 should be thrown in a dumpster.

And I freely admit I’m making an allowance for 6505 because the QC has it but honestly it should be a 5150. They’re not that fucking hard to come by and modeling a 6505, same or not, feels like cutting corners.

 

[Dez]

PV 505! That’s the one I was using the other day that I was totally loving. I don’t know how “accurate” it is but it was doing the thing well enough.


Also any modeler that doesn’t have a model of the 5150/6505 should be thrown in a dumpster.

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And I freely admit I’m making an allowance for 6505 because the QC has it but honestly it should be a 5150. They’re not that fucking hard to come by and modeling a 6505, same or not, feels like cutting corners.

I do like the Nolly 5150 better with the same settings. I spent some time riffing between the two earlier

 

[paisleywookiee]

I think Amplitube was the only one where I thought something was quite different. Helix didn’t have something in the lows/low mids.

Really? I thought it was closer than Genome.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I do like the Nolly 5150 better with the same settings. I spent some time riffing between the two earlier

I’m curious to hear how they differ at the same settings. Is it somewhat like the STL differences (same same but different)?

And I freely admit I’m making an allowance for 6505 because the QC has it but honestly it should be a 5150. They’re not that fucking hard to come by and modeling a 6505, same or not, feels like cutting corners.

I don’t think this would bother me in the slightest - it’s a different name and little else. But yeah, calling it 5150 is better than calling it 6505 even though I think most people know the score whichever name is used.

 

[deadpool_25]

I don’t think this would bother me in the slightest - it’s a different name and little else. But yeah, calling it 5150 is better than calling it 6505 even though I think most people know the score whichever name is used.

It really shouldn’t bother me either. It’s just kinda the principle of it, probably made worse by the amount of crap they’ve gotten in the past. It makes me feel like they should at least feel like there’s no room for half-assing stuff, especially when it’s so easy to just do it right in the first place.

The 5150 is “The One”. The 6505 is “effectively the same but not quite exactly.” I mean at least give me the 6505 - 1992 Original lol (I realize the PV 505 was in the QC before that amp was released but still.).

Again, not a big deal really. I’m just saying if given the choice between putting a 5150 or a 6505 in your top-shelf modeler, you just take the 5150 on general principle right? While the 6505 allows you to answer questions with “it’s the same amp,” those questions never exist if you just get a 5150. And to take that to the extreme, get a block letter to squash any other questions.

Again though…the 6505 in the box is doing the thing quite nicely for me so I’m totally just nitpicking. Especially so considering I had a 5150 block letter and a 6505 at the same time and they were identical in the room as far as I could tell.

 

[Dez]

I’m curious to hear how they differ at the same settings. Is it somewhat like the STL differences (same same but different)?


I don’t think this would bother me in the slightest - it’s a different name and little else. But yeah, calling it 5150 is better than calling it 6505 even though I think most people know the score whichever name is used.

I’ll record it tomorrow!