The Official Original Artificial Intelligence We're All F***ing Doomed Thread

AI is causing a ton of issues with computer part shortages, driving up the price of everything. That’s not really debatable. It’s also wasting natural resources, especially the more datacenters that are built. It’s also starting to cause job losses.
I don’t hate it for minor LLM use, but there’s no denying the negative impact it’s having.
 
AI will render most of current humans unnecessary. Most humans "are allowed to exist" by the most powerful people in the world, so we provide them what they need to stay wealthy and powerful.

Births are going down in many western societies. Resources are getting lower, and global population didn't stop rising.

With AI, the number of humans required for the world to "keep spinning" will be drastically reduced. It's just going to happen and there's nothing we can do to prevent it, as we've never been able to change anything we weren't allowed to change.
 
molul said:
AI will render most of current humans unnecessary. Most humans "are allowed to exist" by the most powerful people in the world, so we provide them what they need to stay wealthy and powerful.

Births are going down in many western societies. Resources are getting lower, and global population didn't stop rising.

With AI, the number of humans required for the world to "keep spinning" will be drastically reduced. It's just going to happen and there's nothing we can do to prevent it, as we've never been able to change anything we weren't allowed to change.
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There’s a reason why all the billionaires are building luxury bunkers.

Billionaires are a cancer on society.
 
molul said:
With AI, the number of humans required for the world to "keep spinning" will be drastically reduced. It's just going to happen and there's nothing we can do to prevent it, as we've never been able to change anything we weren't allowed to change.
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Absolutely this.
Humans will still be required for some stuff, though. From all that is known so far, AI plus robots will not be able to maintain themselves self-sufficiently right now, there's gonna be issues with power supplement, cooling and what not.
But then, in a worst case horror scenario, there'd be nuclear plants all over the place, then there's plenty of Uranium left and even in case something went terribly wrong and all of mankind would be killed by nuclear plant accidents, robots could likely still maintain the AI-server-farms and maybe even produce all required parts.
The biggest issue I could see arising would be cooling issues, but with just some big AI-farms left, nature could probably recover and there'd be plenty of forests and what not, so any kind of global warming would be stopped and there'd be plenty of sweet water, too.
 
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Sascha Franck said:
And yes, billionaires will ruin it for everyone. Their excessive greed is unstoppable and they're now in the process of completely taking over worldwide. What a coincidence (pfft...) that AI is pretty much entirely in their hands and working only in their interests.
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Friends tell me there's a "basic income"(? Not sure of the name in English) that would be provided by wealthy people, forced by governments, to make sure people without jobs don't die like flies.

I can only laugh about the concept of wealthy people giving away their money to people they never cared about.

We're about to see a very dark age. Enjoy your Helix Stadium while you can and don't get angry about its wifi issues.
 
molul said:
Friends tell me there's a "basic income"(? Not sure of the name in English) that would be provided by wealthy people, forced by governments, to make sure people without jobs don't die like flies.

I can only laugh about the concept of wealthy people giving away their money to people they never cared about.

We're about to see a very dark age. Enjoy your Helix Stadium while you can and don't get angry about its wifi issues.
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That's been floated around a lot lately, yeah. Basically because none of the companies in charge can survive simply by selling to each other. In a capitalist society (as much of the western world is), if everyone loses their job, there are no drones to feed the machine. Hence UBI.

I'm skeptical of it as well, though. We're basically at a race to see what happens first; massive displacement, or bubble pop.
 
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TVvoodoo said:
DAW 4-hour session:
Typical home rig (music PC ~200W avg + monitors/speakers ~100W) draws ~1.2 kWh, emitting ~480g CO₂e (400g/kWh global avg grid). Direct in, does not factor amp, floor modeler? preamps or pedals.

Four Suno AI generations:
Inference est. 0.05–0.1 kWh/song (diffusion audio models; training amortized negligible), total ~0.2–0.4 kWh, ~80–160g CO₂e.

Comparison: Typical home DAW use for a 4 hour session burns 3–6x more energy/CO₂ than 4 AI generations. Local sustained power use vs efficient cloud GPUs.
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This is a whole cart of apples and oranges, and I can't help but notice that the Suno user is eating both.
 
paisleywookiee said:
Because whether you like AI or not, every one of those fuckers are absolute sociopaths, except maybe the Anthropic guy. Hell, Fuckerberg has to be coached on how to act human.
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You are a good man for seeing what you see.
:beer

Kind of scary how Anthropic gets blacklisted for having morals and wanting some ethical guardrails in place.

Maybe that tells us what the trajectory of the "powerful" are aiming for. :oops:
 
paisleywookiee said:
But yeah, not warm/fuzzy feelings for all this shit.
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That's why there's the Metalz!!! :headbang

I wonder how many times in History, when faced with the impotence of being on a ship going
down, humans/musicians have gathered on the metaphorical deck and played music? Because at
some point what else can you do?? :hugitout

We are definitely not plugging the gashes in the hull of humanity with a guitar or a drumstick, are we?.
So, maybe we can use those tools for what they were intended for: to bring some grace to the grotesque,
and some beauty to the unending brokenness of Bablylon.
 
We've had a roughly 60% increase in electric costs here from this time last year. I wish I was exaggerating.
And that seems low compared to what some regions/areas are experiencing.

The economics in play are to defer the costs to the greater public (and not just financial, but emotional, mental,
and physical) and pocket the profits. It's a brilliant strategy when you think about it. Especially if you assume
you are superior to the average human-being.
 
la szum said:
We've had a roughly 60% increase in electric costs here from this time last year. I wish I was exaggerating.
And that seems low compared to what some regions/areas are experiencing.

The economics in play are to defer the costs to the greater public (and not just financial, but emotional, mental,
and physical) and pocket the profits. It's a brilliant strategy when you think about it. Especially if you assume
you are superior to the average human-being.
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Is that not largely because of the Ukraine invasion by Russia?
I know my utility cost in Germany is twice what it was prior.
And in Hungary where they still get energy from Russia it’s a quarter.

But that’s what I said earlier this had to end up in politics.
 
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