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Nobody got offended. We're just quibbling over this characterisation.
The most accurate capture system: A frequency analysis
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And not always.
Play an open chord, oh wow... the frequency response is very similar.
Play a palm mute... oh wow.. they're really different.
Seen that exact thing more times than I can remember.
And the problem is, you get guys who are heavily open-chord type guitarists then claiming that A capture is extremely similar to B device, and guys who are heavily palm mute type guitarists claiming the opposite.
Frequency response is a 1-dimensional - okay, 1.5-dimensional - tool when determining the accuracy of the capture of an amp as a system.
No offense required.
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These things can just as likely be things that are dynamic behaviours (like a fizz that is resonant rather than just present). They could look just fine in a frequency response curve but sound different.
I’d actually say fizzy and muddy and bloated are more likely to be about the relative dynamics of those frequency areas rather than merely the presence (or lack) of them.
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what a perfect summary. This is the thing I currently find with proxy. It seems fairly accurate until you start chugging. There is an exaggerated thing going on that causes certain frequencies to jut out. This is with the amp models as well. With my personal stuff, I had a few exaggerated instances around 160Hz but that could be the harmonic. It might be at 80 or simply material dependent. I think it is a lack of compression on the clone, where the amp would naturally compress more.
My overview:
Null tests by themselves are useless, especially when summarizing into a single LUFS number. The equivalent would be rating a movie from 1-10.
You're better off listening to the diff file and hearing what is different.
Frequency graphs are simple snapshots that are one-dimensional. If you can hear the differences, they may help confirm what you hear and pinpoint some frequencies.
As you have also stated previously, these tests are not taking "sag, compression, or other non-linear phenomenon going on in the circuit"
compression is a huge factor and one of the reasons I don't jive using other people's presets. Wayyyyy too much gain. I rely on heavy picking to distort and use mid gain. If people put their gain at 8 on a preset, I roll it back to 5.
Frequency graphs don't show where notes are picked hard or soft. Null tests neither. You could run multiple null tests with different input signals where dynamics are taken into account and it would give you a slightly better picture. Slightly.
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This is just one more useless video by someone who has no clue of the magnitude of his ignorance. It establishes nothing.
FYI, there is no single transfer function, no matter how complex, that can ever characterize a nonlinear system. Comparisons of the spectral content of a system's output to one input signal - what Mikko does here, albeit with inadequate detail - do not establish which model of a nonlinear system best represents the actual nonlinear system. Best case, any such comparison will be limited to the specific stimulus signals used. The model judged to be "best" in a finite number of specific cases could very well fall flat on its face when presented with a different input. That's the nature of nonlinear systems.
FYI, there is no single transfer function, no matter how complex, that can ever characterize a nonlinear system. Comparisons of the spectral content of a system's output to one input signal - what Mikko does here, albeit with inadequate detail - do not establish which model of a nonlinear system best represents the actual nonlinear system. Best case, any such comparison will be limited to the specific stimulus signals used. The model judged to be "best" in a finite number of specific cases could very well fall flat on its face when presented with a different input. That's the nature of nonlinear systems.
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FTFY.
And ya fuckin’ crybabies won’t even let me have my fun continuing to do so.
Just waiting to find a paper trail from NDSP’s bank accounts to you and Whiz.
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To be fair, your earlier posts read as the writings of someone that was offended by a person’s position, not just in disagreement.
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That's a read problem. Not a write one. I don't see any evidence for offense; I was just correcting inaccuracies. Sometimes people do find that offensive, I grant you.
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How can you possibly say that no offense should be taken when you correct people’s fucking mistakes like there’s never a god damn possibility for two interpretations youvtameat?!?!? No offense taken.
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Was that a real sentence bro? I don't know what a youvtameat is. Is it tasty?
But I didn't say no offense should be taken anyway.
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After I have my covfefe.
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