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[Eagle]

I've never really understood this to be honest. I had a Fryette Sig:X and found it very easy to play. Or more accurately, I've never played an amp where it was hard to play - if it didn't sound or feel right, then I just dialed in the wrong tone. Doesn't mean the amp is hard to play.

Go play a Bad Cat , sounds great but zero fun.

 

[Orvillain]

Go play a Bad Cat , sounds great but zero fun.

I've always been curious, but never had the opportunity.

 

[RaceU4her]

No they didn’t, he ended up on 10s by the end of a tour.

I’ve read the opposite, he would start with 12’s and then ended up at 13’s as his hand would get stronger during a tour

 

[Eagle]

I’ve read the opposite, he would start with 12’s and then ended up at 13’s as his hand would get stronger during a tour

His tech told me that in the 80s

 

[paisleywookiee]

I know you are just trying to use what you learned in a college class, but we use appeal to authority every day, in every facet of life.

FDA tests the red berries for safety, they are certified as a safe food source and sold in grocery stores. Your neighbor ate some of those red berries and got deathly ill, and tells you not to eat them. Who do you believe?

Eddie Van Halen designs and uses an amp on stage through the final decade of his career, and he is knows to have great touch sensitivity. Some bedroom guitarist says the amp doesn't respond to his right hand technique. Who do you believe?

Appeal to authority is fundamental to how we as a society operate. It guides our decision making.

Man, that point is sailing over your head at supersonic speeds.

Had @RaceU4her said “The only amp I’ve never bonded with feel wise is my 6505+, it just dosent react to my right hand at all. So I don’t think anyone should use it, it’s a bad amp.” Then your rant would have some ground to possibly stand on. But he didn’t say that. He said how HE felt, for HIM.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Little guys go through their whole lives never being in any danger. Larger men leave them alone because they aren't a threat and it wouldn't be sporting to start fights with them.

So you acknowledge that you missed the point then? Good.

 

[Orvillain]

Little guys go through their whole lives never being in any danger. Larger men leave them alone because they aren't a threat and it wouldn't be sporting to start fights with them.

 

[norminal]

Are marks the same way?

IMO, no. In my experience, Mark amps will expose ALL of your flaws and weaknesses in your playing

 

[Joshual-L]

Plexi types. Cause it’s easier for me to play when the amp have a lot of dynamic.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I acknowledged that it wouldn't be worth it to engage.

Probably for the best.

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

For me the amount of gain the amp can get or you have dialed in determines how easy it is to play. I suck so the cleaner it is the more my sloppy playing comes out. When I am playing for a minute to just hear something and I don't have time to warm up or learn something I play with more gain but when I want to push myself to get better and while learning new things I clean it up a bit.. that is just me. People like Dimebag played with so much gain but it wasn't to make it easier to play for him, it's just his sound.

 

[GTR37]

I've never really understood this to be honest. I had a Fryette Sig:X and found it very easy to play. Or more accurately, I've never played an amp where it was hard to play - if it didn't sound or feel right, then I just dialed in the wrong tone. Doesn't mean the amp is hard to play.

The SigX was an evolution of the Deliverance which he designed to be more simple and easy to play

The really tough ones are the Ultralead pitbull with the Kt88, that is a very tight stiff , dry unforgiving amps , its has a fast attack so it leaves your playing exposed , a lot of people love the amp for that reason as you cannot cheat if your picking and muting is sloppy it will figuratively bite you in the ass

 

[RaceU4her]

People like Dimebag played with so much gain but it wasn't to make it easier to play for him, it's just his sound.

I love gain, but I have to adjust my grip to keep things tight when I boost my Randall’s like he did cause it’s just so over the top, definitely don’t have to be as heavy handed as I usually like

 

[RaceU4her]

The SigX was an evolution of the Deliverance which he designed to be more simple and easy to play

The really tough ones are the Ultralead pitbull with the Kt88, that is a very tight stiff , dry unforgiving amps , its has a fast attack so it leaves your playing exposed , a lot of people love the amp for that reason as you cannot cheat if your picking and muting is sloppy it will figuratively bite you in the ass

I never understood guys “liking an amp cause it forces me to play better” as I often see, I guess I assume we all know how to play, and fighting with an amp just dosent sound like a good time

 

[spawnofthesith]

My experience with fryette: sig x was amazing, didn’t seem to really have the same “unforgiving ness” as my pittbull

Just such a unique amp. It really relies on the right hand. “Fighting” might be an exaggeration but it did take more effort. But the payoff was glorious and special

I know I’ve told this antecdote a million times but I’ll still never forget when the other guitar player in an old band (not metal, and he also wA absolutely not a metal player) plugged into my “brutal high setting) on the CL and it sounded. Low gain as hell and nothing like when I played through the exact same setup. Definitely was a “pat myself on the back” moment for my chugging/masturbating abilities

 

[Eagle]

That's what they say about the Dimarzio Evolutions I have in half my guitars. I never knew what they meant by that.

They aren’t.

 

[Orvillain]

The SigX was an evolution of the Deliverance which he designed to be more simple and easy to play

Deliverance came after the SigX didn't it???

Ah no. Deliverance was 2005, Sig:X was 2007.

 

[laxu]

Deliverance came after the SigX didn't it???

Ah no. Deliverance was 2005, Sig:X was 2007.

Yeah I thought it became after too. Huh.

I have only played the Pitbull and Deliverance, but both have this very specific feel to them that is different from any high gain amp out there. They "feel low gain" even when you have plenty of gain. This sounds fantastic for rhythm playing if you have the chops for it, or it will "fight back" enough that you will quickly improve.

But I find that sound to be so stiff for anything else that I just don't vibe with it.

What made you sell the Sig:X?

 

[Orvillain]

What made you sell the Sig:X?

A similar reason to be honest. High-gain didn't really sound or feel saturated enough for me anymore. The last TNBD album was SigX and VH4, and I got an amazing tone. But neither amp by itself stood on its own two feet.

My JVM stands on its own two feet, so I sold the SigX and got the Dual Recto. Then I got the Mark V. I'd like a SigX again, but mostly because of nostalgia, not because I need it or anything.

The Diezel D-Moll and Hagen are both great amps, and can do the super saturated thing very well. But to get close to a standalone experience, the frontend really needs controlling. Either with EQ or an OD pedal.

 

[MatrixClaw]

^ I tried really hard to like my SigX, but it just felt like every setting I used for high gain was almost there, but never quite right. The Plexi channel was fantastic, though. I didn't find it to be unforgiving at all. The only way I could get enough gain out of it, made it turn muddy and meh

To answer the original question:

Bogner 101b. I've owned one before and didn't care for it, but the one I have now was the first time I ever experienced an amp "feeling" special to play. Everytime I plug into it, it's an experience. Coincidentally, I traded the SigX for it and don't regret it one bit.