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[Shredder777]

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[Frodebro]

The cable runs are where the main loss comes from, though there are probably buffered ABYs available to offset that. Perhaps Radial makes one/

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

If you have a single hi Z signal (guitar) that goes into a Y box, how will it have the same voltage on both sides? Afaict, it would need to be active as you say.

Voltage will be the same because it's a parallel circuit. Current will be lower...but the whole point of having a high z signal is to keep current to a minimum.

 

[sleewell]

lehle makes very good ABYs

 

[Blix]

Will a passive Y box have an identical signal on both outs compared to the input?

No, for ABY you want a good active box, or at least have a buffer before a passive one.

 

[Blix]

So if, for instance, I had a noise gate pedal first, then a passive Y, it would work well? (Only getting the coloration of the noise gate?)

Yeah that'll work.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Will a passive Y box have an identical signal on both outs compared to the input?

It all depends on what you are plugging into after the aby pedal - if it’s splitting to two amps your guitar is not running into a 1 Mohm input as usual, but into two 1 Mohm loads in parallel. That’s not the aby pedal adding coloration, it’s the different load.

 

[dronerstone]

This looks like what I need, for cheap.

Do you need the switching part, or would a non-switchable "permanent" splitter suffice?

Cream of the crop: https://www.thomann.de/at/vahlbruch_xroads_active_aby_switch.htm

 

[Humbug]

If you just need the "Y" you can get away with using a buffered pedal into a Y cable.

 

[Eagle]

If you just need the "Y" you can get away with using a buffered pedal into a Y cable.

No you can’t because of ground loops.

 

[Eagle]

Get the Lehle or a Gig rig.
Totally transparent,silent and bombproof.
Expensive but they do exactly what you want and will last forever.

 

[Humbug]

No you can’t because of ground loops.

Isolation is, of course, better. Hence the "get away with". However, I have a simple buffered Y setup at home that works fine, so... Yes you can! :-)

 

[Eagle]

Isolation is, of course, better. Hence the "get away with". However, I have a simple buffered Y setup at home that works fine, so... Yes you can! :-)

Isolation isn’t better it’s essential.

 

[laxu]

Get the Lehle or a Gig rig.
Totally transparent,silent and bombproof.
Expensive but they do exactly what you want and will last forever.

Agreed.

Consider if it's worth paying less money and potentially having more headaches along the way, or spending the extra for a super robust, don't need to worry about it, lasts for decades box that solves problems.

I don't know about you, but my favorite pieces of gear are ones that I don't need to think about. They just do their thing.

 

[2112]

I've had the Lehle P Split for close to 10 years and it's been flawless.

Buy once, cry once.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Try the Sonicake. There's no Vodoo behind these circuits, even if some people would like you to believe it.

 

[Eagle]

Try the Sonicake. There's no Vodoo behind these circuits, even if some people would like you to believe it.

It’s not isolated it’s only buffered . It’s not believe it’s just not sufficient for most applications.
Your telling him to buy something that won’t work in most applications waste time and money then have to buy the actual product. Good job.

 

[Eagle]

Products

www.lehle.com

 

[Sascha Franck]

It’s not believe it’s just not sufficient for most applications.

Untrue. I used a buffered DIY splitter for several things in the past and it worked absolutely well. And in terms it didn't, I could always connect a little galvanic isolation box, such as the Behringer HD400, which is working excellently (I even modified one with better secured I/O jacks). Still heaps cheaper than a Lehle.

 

[Eagle]

Untrue. I used a buffered DIY splitter for several things in the past and it worked absolutely well. And in terms it didn't, I could always connect a little galvanic isolation box, such as the Behringer HD400, which is working excellently (I even modified one with better secured I/O jacks). Still heaps cheaper than a Lehle.

But why bother with this garbage when the perfect solution is available and not particularly expensive. It’s a totally false economy.