Stadium XL focus view and snapshots

[LP59]

The first thing I wanted to do after I dialed in a tone with focus view on the amp was to save that into a snapshot. But any changes I make with focus view don't seem to get saved into a snapshot. When I come back to the snapshot, the changes I made with focus view are gone. Is that right?

 

[Digital Igloo]

The first thing I wanted to do after I dialed in a tone with focus view on the amp was to save that into a snapshot. But any changes I make with focus view don't seem to get saved into a snapshot. When I come back to the snapshot, the changes I made with focus view are gone. Is that right?

Block bypass is automatically assigned to snapshots but parameters are not (by design, just like Helix/HX). If you want snapshots to reflect where you move the Focus lens, push-turn each knob to assign it to snapshot control; the value turns white.

At that point the Focus lens itself won't move when changing snapshots, but the parameters will jump accordingly.

 

[LP59]

Thanks.

I think you've done such a good job with focus view, that it might frequently be used as the way that people edit presets. In that case, it would be really nice if it interacted with snapshots just like the individual controls.

And it would be nice if all of the block focus views worked in the editor. Maybe that's just a "not in the initial version" thing?

 

[Digital Igloo]

Thanks.

I think you've done such a good job with focus view, that it might frequently be used as the way that people edit presets. In that case, it would be really nice if it interacted with snapshots just like the individual controls.

And it would be nice if all of the block focus views worked in the editor. Maybe that's just a "not in the initial version" thing?

Parameter control of snapshots absolutely needs to be off by default; otherwise you’re constantly updating every snapshot for every parameter tweak you make that’s not supposed to change per snapshot. Eek!

Yes, Focus zones will eventually appear in the editor. I’m astounded the software team was able get as much done as they did. If you remember, it was supposed to be just a simple librarian at launch.

 

[laxu]

I hope you add some sort of "Save focus settings to current snapshot" button soon. I could see that being a great way to quickly alter the tone for a snapshot. Especially when the user-editable focus points become a thing.

Technically I suppose this would work so that basically any parameters altered by focus get iterated through and saved to snapshot settings.

 

[Digital Igloo]

I hope you add some sort of "Save focus settings to current snapshot" button soon. I could see that being a great way to quickly alter the tone for a snapshot. Especially when the user-editable focus points become a thing.

Technically I suppose this would work so that basically any parameters altered by focus get iterated through and saved to snapshot settings.

"Save Focus settings to current snapshot" would require all Focus view-controlled parameters be set for snapshot control. In this case, what you suggest would just work anyway—select Snap 1, move Focus lens, select Snap 2, move Focus lens, select Snap 3, move Focus lens, etc.

I could maybe see a "enable snapshot control of all parameters in this block" shortcut so you don't have to push-turn each knob, but I think snapshot parameter assignment might be limited to 96 or 128 (EDIT: It's 96 but Igor thinks we might be able to expand this count) parameters or something; I forget. (It's 64 in Helix/HX.) Regardless, you might run out of snapshot assignments quickly that way.

 

[laxu]

"Save Focus settings to current snapshot" would require all Focus view-controlled parameters be set for snapshot control. In this case, what you suggest would just work anyway—select Snap 1, move Focus lens, select Snap 2, move Focus lens, select Snap 3, move Focus lens, etc.

I could maybe see a "enable snapshot control of all parameters in this block" shortcut so you don't have to push-turn each knob, but I think snapshot parameter assignment might be limited to 96 or 128 (EDIT: It's 96 but Igor thinks we might be able to expand this count) parameters or something; I forget. (It's 64 in Helix/HX.) Regardless, you might run out of snapshot assignments quickly that way.

Yeah this sounds like one of those problems that could be approached from multiple directions. If you save the focus position, then you need to have it do all the param changes immediately on recall. If you save the param changes as well, then you save/recall a lot more data...

 

[Digital Igloo]

Yeah this sounds like one of those problems that could be approached from multiple directions. If you save the focus position, then you need to have it do all the param changes immediately on recall. If you save the param changes as well, then you save/recall a lot more data...

I think it'll be cleaner once user Focus zones are added: Users can just turn the knobs per Focus zone—or—push-turn the knobs they want to control via Focus zones and snapshots. Sounds complicated on paper, but it should be trivial and super fast in practice.

 

[LP59]

I think it'll be cleaner once user Focus zones are added: Users can just turn the knobs per Focus zone—or—push-turn the knobs they want to control via Focus zones and snapshots. Sounds complicated on paper, but it should be trivial and super fast in practice.

IMHO it would be nice to treat focus view as a proper parameter in the preset that just happens to be a macro that affects other parameters when you change it.

That way focus view could a first class parameter that can be snapshotted (you'd only need to enable this one macro parameter for snapshots), can be restored when loading a preset, and can be remotely controlled (although you'd need an XY controller since this focus view parameter would have a pair of values).

I have no idea how difficult that would be, but I've seen this design work well in other systems. As it is, focus view is cool, but doesn't really fit harmoniously with the rest of the UI.