Somehow I’m a Police fan now

[Jarick]

If you haven't seen it, this documentary is amazing. The Phil Collins story presented by his son Nic where they reassemble one of his classic drum kits and bring in Phil as well. And the respect and excitement that they have is just off the charts. Peak YouTube.

 

[Jarick]

Dude, this, this and more this, 1000%. That channel is outstanding and seems to have been successful in pulling off what Truefire was going for. Maybe Truefire is more successful than I’m aware of and I just don’t pay attention to it, but I never feel like I’m being sold anything when I watch the Drumeo vids, even when they’re advertising their courses.

I was fortunate that when I started playing drums I was working in a drum store where my best friend and I could devour drum instructional videos as much as we wanted, but this is a whole other level of that. The interviews and insight is quite priceless and their ability to get these guys in a studio and under the gun while still being relaxed is impressive.

And I feel drummers are so much more willing to fall flat on their faces when attempting to play other drummer’s parts than guitarists would be. I’d love to see a whole channel of stuff like that with guitarists.

Truefire has tons of great teaching content but not much in terms of entertainment. I think that's where Brandon works really well as an entertaining yet knowledgeable host that drives the video and ties them together.

I'd say Rick Beato in a way is the closest thing we have from a guitarist standpoint but that's a little different as very long form interviews rather than interactive shorter videos.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Problem with Beato is he's telling me about music I already discovered decades ago (if I did in fact like it) and then leaning on his expertise which for me is a music course I'll never take and rando music production and being in some band that was too late to make the cut. Must be Hot Take Tuesday

 

[BFRaid]

I saw The Police on the Zenyatta Mondatta tour at the Orpheum in Boston. That was the show where they recorded their live album. I was a full-on metalhead at the time, but my big sis would drag me to shows to introduce me to new bands. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Big sis also dragged me to see U2 and Prince at the same small venue, great sister.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I saw The Police on the Zenyatta Mondatta tour at the Orpheum in Boston. That was the show where they recorded their live album. I was a full-on metalhead at the time, but my big sis would drag me to shows to introduce me to new bands. It was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Big sis also dragged me to see U2 and Prince at the same small venue, great sister.

All three of these bands, at that time; would be absolute heyday era. Good on your sister and good on you for being an open minded metalhead!

 

[mbenigni]

I will also add that earlier I stated the Police are great at jamming their material out. This is 100% true BUT my one caveat is that Stewart Copeland is like the George Lynch of drummers where he plays something completely awesome on record then wings something else completely live. Probably awesome as well but super frustrating if you are a person on the musical spectrum who needs to hear the fills and drum riffs done the way they are on the album!

Funny you mention that. I nearly went postal at the ~2008 show when Andy improvised the solo to Driven to Tears. I learned that one note for note when I was 13 or 14 years old, and put it on the very highest of pedestals. Getting halfway through that song and hearing anything else was like nails on a chalkboard LOL.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Some of the hits are annoying and there's certainly a degree of overexposure to certain tunes after so many decades but the Police are awesome especially once you dive into listening to full albums. And as everyone has stated Copeland is a beast

 

[mbenigni]

Funny you mention that. I nearly went postal at the ~2008 show when Andy improvised the solo to Driven to Tears. I learned that one note for note when I was 13 or 14 years old, and put it on the very highest of pedestals. Getting halfway through that song and hearing anything else was like nails on a chalkboard LOL.

P.S. And slightly off-topic, but don't even get me started on watching RJD go all Whitney Houston at Sabbath/ Heaven and Hell shows...

 

[slimefuzz]

this was interesting

 

[JiveTurkey]

Funny you mention that. I nearly went postal at the ~2008 show when Andy improvised the solo to Driven to Tears. I learned that one note for note when I was 13 or 14 years old, and put it on the very highest of pedestals. Getting halfway through that song and hearing anything else was like nails on a chalkboard LOL.

But the original solo is a nails on the chalkboard solo Kind of like his everlasting contribution to Synchronicity with the "song" 'Mother'

 

[mbenigni]

But the original solo is a nails on the chalkboard solo Kind of like his everlasting contribution to Synchronicity with the "song" 'Mother'

Yes, but at the concert, he played the wrong nails on, perhaps, the wrong chalkboard.

(I am something of a connoisseur where nails on a chalkboard are concerned.)

 

[Eldorado]

 

[DrewJD82]

I will also add that earlier I stated the Police are great at jamming their material out. This is 100% true BUT my one caveat is that Stewart Copeland is like the George Lynch of drummers where he plays something completely awesome on record then wings something else completely live. Probably awesome as well but super frustrating if you are a person on the musical spectrum who needs to hear the fills and drum riffs done the way they are on the album!

There’s also a clip of him talking about how he wined to Neil Peart about how Peart fans learn every fill and air drum at the shows and how he wanted that same thing, but when Pearl told him he has to play the songs the same way every time he pretty much said “Yeah fuck that”

 

[JiveTurkey]

There’s also a clip of him talking about how he wined to Neil Peart about how Peart fans learn every fill and air drum at the shows and how he wanted that same thing, but when Pearl told him he has to play the songs the same way every time he pretty much said “Yeah fuck that”

I think I've heard this before I would have KILLED to listen to that conversation between those two

 

[bucephalus]

You anti-Beato dudes are a weird bunch. I can’t for the life of me understand why it’s laughable that a dude with infinitely more musical knowledge than I will ever posses was the conduit for me digging on a band I’d long dismissed. Reminds me of the Korn and Deftones kids calling me “virtuoso f*g” in high school because I was into Steve Vai and Dream Theater.

Fair enough, it's only my opinion but I find him a real hard swallow, his knowledge aside. I can't even show you on the doll where he hurt me, but I cannot stand him.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Fair enough, it's only my opinion but I find him a real hard swallow, his knowledge aside. I can't even show you on the doll where he hurt me, but I cannot stand him.

I'm very split the difference about him on this. I think I'd genuinely like him IRL; I just don't hold any weight to his opinions. I do like watching him interview musicians though.

 

[Sascha Franck]

BUT my one caveat is that Stewart Copeland is like the George Lynch of drummers where he plays something completely awesome on record then wings something else completely live. Probably awesome as well but super frustrating if you are a person on the musical spectrum who needs to hear the fills and drum riffs done the way they are on the album!

For me it's always like: If I want the album playing, I listen to the album. I don't need 1:1 live reenacting, I actually want them to come up with "individual moments".

 

[la szum]

Very cool!

I remember precisely where I was when I was first hipped to The Police. Riding
BMX bikes with friends on some trails out behind an Elementary school. Summer
1982.

Friend has a Cassette and a Walkman. He gives me the Headphones. Boom!

That same cat also hipped me to Rush, and was the one who---a couple of years later
took me and another friend to my first ever concert. Rush.



I have always sensed a lot of similarities between Rush and The Police. So different
and yet so similar. The space. A super complex drummer. A guitarist neck deep into
FX in order to bring more body to a Trio setting. A singing bassist.


Too bad they didn't get along as well as the guys in Rush, though, eh?



I would have rather had seen more The Police albums than solo Sting writing about shipbuilding in
the mid 20th Century. Sorry, Gordon.

 

[JiveTurkey]

For me it's always like: If I want the album playing, I listen to the album. I don't need 1:1 live reenacting, I actually want them to come up with "individual moments".

I'd mainly like it if they improvised over the individual moments that weren't memorable and I hadn't spend 40+ years ingraining into my brain

 

[JiveTurkey]

Very cool!

I remember precisely where I was when I was first hipped to The Police. Riding
BMX bikes with friends on some trails out behind an Elementary school. Summer
1982.

Friend has a Cassette and a Walkman. He gives me the Headphones. Boom!

That same cat also hipped me to Rush, and was the one who---a couple of years later
took me and another friend to my first ever concert. Rush.



I have always sensed a lot of similarities between Rush and The Police. So different
and yet so similar. The space. A super complex drummer. A guitarist neck deep into
FX in order to bring more body to a Trio setting. A singing bassist.


Too bad they didn't get along as well as the guys in Rush, though, eh?



I would have rather had seen more The Police albums than solo Sting writing about shipbuilding in
the mid 20th Century. Sorry, Gordon.

Someone in one his solo band iterations with Stewart's energy levels would have been a godsend.