Quad Cortex Mini

[deadpool_25]

Yeah there’s nothing I can see in any edit menus. In fairness I haven’t checked in Cortex Control so it’s possible there might be an option in there I’m not seeing. I’ll try to remember to check later.

 

[mbenigni]

Thanks for confirming. I must have hallucinated a video where the scenes toggled back and forth. Seems like something that should already exist but I'll drop it and considerthe mystery solved. Finally. I think.

It's likely you saw a video where someone had assigned Bypass states for a bunch of different blocks to one footswitch. That's the simplest workaround for simulating moderately complex toggle behavior, but it has a lot of limitations versus actual Scene changes. (Namely: you can only toggle Bypass.)

 

[mbenigni]

Was this ever fixed by NDSP on newer models ? or they just said fuck it will wait for returns and fix them ?

I think it’s just general low quality internal construction. I suspect it just comes disconnected easily. This and failure of multi function components that just aren’t as robust as they should be.

 

[mbenigni]

Not that I can tell. And it seems like an obvious thing to have. There are two pages of scene view. When you’re on page 1, you select a given scene by pressing the corresponding button. If you quick press that button again, it doesn’t do anything because you’re already on that scene. At the very least they could make it so pressing the button for the currently selected scene (A-D) toggles to the corresponding scene (A-D) on page two.

And just a straight up menu where you could tell it what to do with any given button would be more flexible obviously.

Clicking on a footswitch assigned to a given Scene won't even reload that Scene - if, for instance, you've used a different switch to toggle Bypass on effect block(s) since loading the Scene the first time. Even that much would give me some workarounds if I think I outside the box.

The preset I've been slowly perfecting is for use with one expression pedal and two footswitches. After going round and round on this, I've had to just stay in Stomp mode entirely - which means duplicate blocks in cases where a simple parameter change is all I need.

 

[mbenigni]

Thanks for confirming. I must have hallucinated a video where the scenes toggled back and forth. Seems like something that should already exist but I'll drop it and considerthe mystery solved. Finally. I think.

Hopefully S O O N?

There are a lot of ways to implement this that would potentially over-complicate the OS/UI. But a very straightforward approach is to simply add an option in the Global settings: "Pressing button for current Scene selects last used Scene - Y/N". Store last used scene; check the flag; select that shit. Voila.

 

[DrewJD82]

The QCM design almost certainly eliminates the need for a separate daughterboard for footswitches and LEDs, and it's likely more robust as a result.

But I don't really follow your logic about the reduced switch count addressing complaints re: oversimplified footswitch implementation. If anything, having fewer switches would make me wish the ones I had were more versatile.

I use external switches with my "big" QC, but I've found I'm more comfortable (and screw up less) the fewer of them I have in front of me. What I've been really wishing lately is that I could program a single switch to toggle between two Scenes, which is bafflingly absent in CorOS.

The reduced amount of footswitches was already handwaved off at the launch of the QCM- “Just get a Morningstar, they just released the MC4, that’s perfect for this!”, the exact same way it was for the OG QC.

Forgive my cynicism here, but I’m not inclined to believed NDSP is going to add more functionality to …..anything, unless they absolutely have to or it significantly increases their money flow, especially when their own customer base will just suggest another product and take the work right out of NDSP’s hands. That model has worked quite well for them in the last 5 years.

 

[mbenigni]

The reduced amount of footswitches was already handwaved off at the launch of the QCM- “Just get a Morningstar, they just released the MC4, that’s perfect for this!”, the exact same way it was for the OG QC.

Desktop use with an external controller is apples and oranges versus an all-in-one approach, though. I've already got my cheapie Paint Audio footcontroller, and I'm not about to start spending Morningstar money for the privilege of spending my weekends programming advanced MIDI behaviors. Those behaviors belong in the host machine, where the OS and GUI live. Regardless, having an external controller has added a lot of value.

Forgive my cynicism here, but I’m not inclined to believed NDSP is going to add more functionality to …..anything, unless they absolutely have to or it significantly increases their money flow, especially when their own customer base will just suggest another product and take the work right out of NDSP’s hands. That model has worked quite well for them in the last 5 years.

I don't know, man. I get that you - and a lot of other people - are pissed at NDSP for all the empty promises early on, but "NSDP isn't going to add more functionality" just doesn't hold water. They've added a lot of new functionality over the last couple of years - turning the QC from a product I was already satisfied with, into one I absolutely love.

IMO NDSP's biggest problem at this point is that they don't interface effectively with their customers, or consistently steer their ship in accordance with customers' priorities. They may or may not release another CorOS this year. Who knows? That CorOS may or may not include improvements that matter to me? I wouldn't know how to let them know what matters to me anyway. I'm not holding my breath thinking a Discord post is going to get me anywhere. I really wish these guys had a TGF representative a la Digital Igloo, who would drop in occasionally to take the temperature, and maybe give us a general update.

 

[JiveTurkey]

It's likely you saw a video where someone had assigned Bypass states for a bunch of different blocks to one footswitch. That's the simplest workaround for simulating moderately complex toggle behavior, but it has a lot of limitations versus actual Scene changes. (Namely: you can only toggle Bypass.)

Yeah it wasn't that. I swear it was in that Sterlacci video where they show one screen with one group of scenes, they go to the secondary page where it shows that next group of scenes and the footswitch toggled between the two.

 

[mbenigni]

Yeah it wasn't that. I swear it was in that Sterlacci video where they show one screen with one group of scenes, they go to the secondary page where it shows that next group of scenes and the footswitch toggled between the two.

So this is the part where you make me sit through a Sterlacci video?

 

[DrewJD82]

I don't know, man. I get that you - and a lot of other people - are pissed at NDSP for all the empty promises early on, but "NSDP isn't going to add more functionality" just doesn't hold water. They've added a lot of new functionality over the last couple of years - turning the QC from a product I was already satisfied with, into one I absolutely love.

I think our assessments of their first 5 years differ to the point we won’t see eye to eye in regard to NDSP.

Somehow NDSP finally getting the QC to a near 1:1 state, after 5 years, of what it was supposed to be at launched turned into “NDSP has really stepped up their game”, in my world that’s is the total opposite of “stepping up their game”, that’s merely “Catching up on what we were supposed to have done on Day 1 after we lied repeatedly about all our resources being exhausted as we were actually designing other revenue streams”.

All the “but they added….!” stuff holds no weight to me as it was supposed be there already, *none* of it was extra or above and beyond, it was 100% the bare minimum to get the QC to it’s launch state.

Funnily, my company is actively taking legal action against a vendor we contracted in 2020 to perform work on our controls system. After 5 years of begging this guy to complete the work and the lack of said work negatively affecting tenant’s business, I went to ownership and asked for guidance as I hadn’t experienced this before, ownership said to have our legal team look over it and then I got the call to end communication with the vendor and send over every email I had, so I’m assuming it’s not looking good for him. Obviously there’s a difference between contracted work and some open ended promises, but the principle and the point is the same and if that vendor came to me now and got all that work done today, I certainly wouldn’t give him a high five and inquire about his other services, he’s been dicking me around for 5 years. And all the work he HAS done actually works quite well!

 

[JiveTurkey]

So this is the part where you make me sit through a Sterlacci video?

I think I was just hallucinating on the day I watched that particular vid. That's my story and I am sticking to it!

 

[mbenigni]

Somehow NDSP finally getting the QC to a near 1:1 state, after 5 years, of what it was supposed to be at launched turned into “NDSP has really stepped up their game”, in my world that’s is the total opposite of “stepping up their game”, that’s merely “Catching up on what we were supposed to have done on Day 1 after we lied repeatedly about all our resources being exhausted as we were actually designing other revenue streams”.

All the “but they added….!” stuff holds no weight to me as it was supposed be there already, *none* of it was extra or above and beyond, it was 100% the bare minimum to get the QC to it’s launch state.

I'm not suggesting that NDSP has "made good" on all of their pre-launch promises. I'm just saying there's no evidence that they're not going to do anything further for the platform. (In fact there's evidence to the contrary.)

 

[mbenigni]

I think I was just hallucinating on the day I watched that particular vid. That's my story and I am sticking to it!

My guess is you were dreaming. I get droopy-eyed 15 seconds into any of those gear videos.

 

[DrewJD82]

I'm not suggesting that NDSP has "made good" on all of their pre-launch promises. I'm just saying there's no evidence that they're not going to do anything further for the platform. (In fact there's evidence to the contrary.)

I’m sure they’ll keep updating the platform as a whole in regard to content like amps and effects as those will be adjacent to the PCOM releases, but as far as additional functionality I’d be very surprised to see more than the basics that’s offered on other modelers being added.

As long as “Just buy a Morningstar” exists, the footswitches will go the same way as the PSU, which I have to imagine “Just buy a Cioks” gave way for NDSP to drop the whole “boutique” PSU silliness, meanwhile 5 years later no one can definitively say if the PSU is a contributor to noise or not, every single discussion of it turns into “It was a myth”, “Not a myth, I had to buy a Cioks”, “Well I didn’t so maybe it’s something in your house”, “No, it was buzzing everywhere”, “Well I bought a Cioks because my QC buzzed some places but not all places and it helped”, “Well my first QC was quiet but my 2nd one buzzed until I changed the PSU…” so on and so forth, with no clarifying statement from the people who actually made the thing.

I’ll give $20 to the first person who mentions this post if NDSP updates the footswitches in the next year. I’ll make it $40 if they do it and it’s not adjacent to a revenue stream release.

 

[Chocol8]

I’m sure they’ll keep updating the platform as a whole in regard to content like amps and effects as those will be adjacent to the PCOM releases, but as far as additional functionality I’d be very surprised to see more than the basics that’s offered on other modelers being added.

As long as “Just buy a Morningstar” exists, the footswitches will go the same way as the PSU, which I have to imagine “Just buy a Cioks” gave way for NDSP to drop the whole “boutique” PSU silliness, meanwhile 5 years later no one can definitively say if the PSU is a contributor to noise or not, every single discussion of it turns into “It was a myth”, “Not a myth, I had to buy a Cioks”, “Well I didn’t so maybe it’s something in your house”, “No, it was buzzing everywhere”, “Well I bought a Cioks because my QC buzzed some places but not all places and it helped”, “Well my first QC was quiet but my 2nd one buzzed until I changed the PSU…” so on and so forth, with no clarifying statement from the people who actually made the thing.

I’ll give $20 to the first person who mentions this post if NDSP updates the footswitches in the next year. I’ll make it $40 if they do it and it’s not adjacent to a revenue stream release.

Drew made a post about QC footswitches. See above.

Consider this the first mention of the post...now I wait

 

[dean701]

the only issue I have is "if I create a preset with 8 scenes, if I want to jump from scene A to G, I have to press to go to the other page first and then press the appropriate scene button"
I don't see anyway around this double press except with the addition of an extra midi controller. correct me if I'm wrong.
Therefore I, personally, would just make all of my presets to have a maximum of 4 scenes so I don't need to flip pages.

 

[deadpool_25]

Yeah it wasn't that. I swear it was in that Sterlacci video where they show one screen with one group of scenes, they go to the secondary page where it shows that next group of scenes and the footswitch toggled between the two.

You can toggle between the first and second pages by holding down the “B” button. Is that what you mean?

 

[Whizzinby]

Pre-launch theatrics aside (insert “I was there, Gandalf” meme) the Mini is the slickest piece of digital kit released since I’ve given a shit about modelers. Neural hit a fucking home run with it.

 

[dean701]

You can toggle between the first and second pages by holding down the “B” button. Is that what you mean?

Yes. So if you're in a hurry with song timing, you have to plan to be holding the b first and then stomp on the scene button in time. Easier to have an mc8 ready for scene changes and allocate the qcm buttons for effect bypass.

 

[GTR37]

Bea back again giving some stomp captures
Maxon , revival drive
And IRs away
The V2 caps sound great