PRS without truss rod

[fetishfrog]

Yes I forgot about the ones he made after the steinberger necks were gone.

I actually think there are more with the rosewood necks out there than graphite.

The rosewood is also gone as well. Steve is making them with truss rods now.

 

[AlbertA]

I have two guitars with solid rosewood necks, no truss rod. They sound and play great. One I've had since 1998. Neck has never moved.

Where is this magical place of constant weather and constant humidity?

I have to adjust the truss rod seasonally here.

 

[Eagle]

Those don’t count because while they played perfectly, they didn’t sound very good. I had a GM5T that i regret selling but I’d never play it now as I have guitars that sound good.

I can give you some things that sound great.

 

[Eagle]

Where is this magical place of constant weather and constant humidity?

I have to adjust the truss rod seasonally here.

Vigier doesn’t move.

 

[fetishfrog]

Where is this magical place of constant weather and constant humidity?

I have to adjust the truss rod seasonally here.

I’ve owed that guitar for 27 years and have taken it all over the world. No issues.

Believe whatever you want though.

 

[HomespunEffects]

I can give you some things that sound great.

Then he went to Carvin who built a significantly superior sounding guitar.

I liked the innovation of Steinberger especially the Trans-trem but the tone just wasn’t there.

 

[Eagle]

Then he went to Carvin who built a significantly superior sounding guitar.

I liked the innovation of Steinberger especially the Trans-trem but the tone just wasn’t there.

The tone isn’t better in the Carvin and the De Lap was before the Carvin . Alan also preferred the Steinberger.

 

[ragingplatypi]

No worries. I don't follow Beato until I hear he interviews a musician I am actually interested in. Tim Pierce is a nice guy I am sure but nothing in this conversation holds any interest for me.

Yeah, I’m not a huge fan either, but the algorithm fed it to me and I needed something in the background. The PRS was a bonus.

Though his interview with Pat Metheny a while back was fantastic.

 

[newholland]

Interesting that he did it with solid rosewood.

The old aluminum neck Travis Beans did not have or need a truss rod, and had nut bridge and pickups all mounted to the neck which sustained great but they were a bit temperature sensitive. I have wondered about a laminated wood neck through design achieving the same thing without the sensitivity to temps. If PRS can do it with solid wood, it seems achievable although well outside my skill set!

a BIT? winter touring NOT recommended based on what ive seen

in all seriousness- wood moves regardless of temps. compared to an aluminum neck, it just trades one set of problems for another.

 

[holoholo]

Can someone explain the advantage of not having a truss rod? Isn’t that where all the toan semen is stored?

 

[Chocol8]

a BIT? winter touring NOT recommended based on what ive seen

in all seriousness- wood moves regardless of temps. compared to an aluminum neck, it just trades one set of problems for another.

A laminated wood neck can be made extremely stable in temps and humidity. I am surprised they are able to do it with solid rosewood but that must be a property of rosewood.

 

[Chocol8]

Can someone explain the advantage of not having a truss rod? Isn’t that where all the toan semen is stored?

Supposedly better resonance.

 

[Chocol8]

a BIT? winter touring NOT recommended based on what ive seen

BTW, a couple of hand warmer packets in a hardshell case works wonders!

 

[HomespunEffects]

The tone isn’t better in the Carvin …

K.

 

[laxu]

I have a Flaxwood Rautia that is made entirely of spruce fiber and resin. I think that would be a better material for something without a truss rod. Mine has a truss rod, but I've never adjusted it and I live in Finland where temps can be very harsh in the winter and jump around quite a bit otherwise.

Still, the truss rod was invented for good reason and we have plenty of guitars with one that sound just great, so I don't really see that these PRS would be an improvement.

 

[Eagle]

Can someone explain the advantage of not having a truss rod? Isn’t that where all the toan semen is stored?

String energy is lost in the interactions between the parts and gaps. It’s the same reason that a vintage single rod sounds better than a modern double rod. Increase the air , metal , part count in a neck and the ability to retain the string enery is reduced.
Anyone using the word “ toane” is usually an idiot so I’m assuming that’s a mistake on your part. Unless you’re someone who thinks wood doesn’t matter?

 

[fetishfrog]

A laminated wood neck can be made extremely stable in temps and humidity. I am surprised they are able to do it with solid rosewood but that must be a property of rosewood.

Steve Klein moved to the solid rosewood necks when the Steinberger graphite necks were no longer going to be available because, in his words, it was the wood that was the most stable, moisture and temp resistant he could find.

 

[Alex Kenivel]

Anyone using the word “ toane” is usually an idiot so I’m assuming that’s a mistake on your part. Unless you’re someone who thinks wood doesn’t matter?

 

[FuzzyAce]

At minute 13:00 they show off this new PRS without a truss rod. Probably not
GAME CHANGING!!!!!!!!!!
but still interesting.

Honestly, the truss rod talk is the least interesting part of the video imo. I was more intrigued by what was said afterwards.

 

[ragingplatypi]

Honestly, the truss rod talk is the least interesting part of the video imo. I was more intrigued by what was said afterwards.

Agreed about the end discussion on the current and future state of things. I like when JNC talks about this too.