Post Your Best Jubilee Tone

[JiveTurkey]

Exact same as a 2203/almost every other Marshall poweramp isn’t it?


Ha Gary Holt lives on a different universe to us mortals though. Might try and see if I can coax one of his recent tones but last time I tried it just reminded me how much of a beast he is, almost impossible to imitate his playing.

And tbf his best tones are from his Langner modded amp.

Talk about tone being in the WRIST

 

[HotRats]

I won't call the jubilee a metal amp but you can definitely play some serious metal with it.

Obviously doesn't sound like an engl or a 5150.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Ha I’m inclined to agree with you (especially because they tarnished the name of the great DSL), but I also played THPS as a teenager and TSL is great for that stuff. They’re kind of thin and nasal and raspy in the right way.

Been tempted to grab one for £250-300 or so just to reminded myself of why I (mostly) hate them.

It’s staggering how cool the DSL was, and TSL…..well, not so much. We just had a 60w in recently used at my shop, and trying it again just confirmed it wasn’t just my tastes at the time. Ah well. They seem to have sold a lot of them though. Still definitely prefer the 900 4100.

 

[LCW]

No clip but it rips in its own way. If I had to describe the SJ tone it would be more Plexi than 800.

100>>20

 

[paisleywookiee]

As for the Jube being a metal amp? Yeah man, it can. My pal that owns the shop has played original Jubes for ages; has like 6 of them. His tone in his band is heavy AF.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I will say the mid control, and treble+presence, and MV make it very forgiving with T75’s in a way that isn’t possible with a lot of other amps. I’m usually all about scooping mids but the Jubilee kind of wants them pushed. I find that with a lot of plate driven tone stacks, i’ll run them higher than I would cathode driven ones

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I will say the mid control, and treble+presence, and MV make it very forgiving with T75’s in a way that isn’t possible with a lot of other amps.

That’s the thing usually for me to stomach 75s the gain has to go up. On that note so much.

But given half a choice I rather hear it through Gbs and/or cream H70 whatever the fuck they’re called.

As for the power amp thing. Yes all Marshall’s do well there but iirc on this one the tone controls still have an effect.

 

[HotRats]

No clip but it rips in its own way. If I had to describe the SJ tone it would be more Plexi than 800.

100>>20

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While I agree that the 100W is better than the 20W, in more than 2 years spent with the mini head I never felt the need to go back to the big sister.

I mean, sound is important but logistics is important too.

Here's a pic of my baby jub from yesterday's gig taken while setting up.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Talk about tone being in the WRIST

This. Holt has this weird picking technique that‘s quite different from the usual down- and upstroke pattern. He has talked about this in a video I just watched yesterday and he said Andy Sneap wanted to learn - or even understand - his picking patterns, but failed. Apart from that he hits the strings really hard.

 

[la szum]

I love the jubilee for sure.

In my opinion is a straight forward rock machine just like any other classic Marshall circuit but with it's own voice.

If you try to make it sound like a different Marshall you're taking the wrong route.

Sell it and buy the marshall that makes the tone you're looking for. That's true for any amp, or guitar, actually.

Had the 100W with a 4x12 with V30s now I play the 20W with a 2x12 with greenbacks.

Contrary to the common opinion I think greenbacks work much better with this amp. But of course is a matter of taste

I used to run the gain between 6 and 7 but I've learned to appreciate this amp even more with gain at 4 with gibson paf humbuckers.

I run mine with with Bass @ 10*, mid @ 6, high @ 4, presence to taste, usually under 5.
Lead volume @8. Rhythm clip gain off.

*With the 100W or a 4x12 bass @ might be too much.

I use the clean channel occasionally but I most of the time simply turn down the guitar volume.

Played a gig yesterday, open air, had the master at 5 but 3 songs into the show I've been asked to turn down to 4 by the sound guy.

The amp sounded simply awesome.

Killer post!

 

[la szum]

It’s staggering how cool the DSL was, and TSL…..well, not so much. We just had a 60w in recently used at my shop, and trying it again just confirmed it wasn’t just my tastes at the time. Ah well. They seem to have sold a lot of them though. Still definitely prefer the 900 4100.

Truth! There's like 75 of them on Guitar Center's Used site right now.

May be exaggerating. A little.

 

[2112]

I really need to get my hands on a Jube at some point. Cool to see a few other less celebrated Marshalls mentioned too.

The 2210 I have has terrible channel bleed. Makes for an awesome power amp though with the ADA or JMP1 though.

TSL is an incredibly meh amp. Not bad per se but it never gets me excited.

6100 is cooler than the TSL with a decent dedicated clean channel.

900 MKIII definitely has it's moments and goes hard with a boost for thrash.

JCM600...

OG DSL is the true heir to the 2203s crown.

We all know and love the JVM.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I really need to get my hands on a Jube at some point. Cool to see a few other less celebrated Marshalls mentioned too.

The 2210 I have has terrible channel bleed. Makes for an awesome power amp though with the ADA or JMP1 though.

TSL is an incredibly meh amp. Not bad per se but it never gets me excited.

6100 is cooler than the TSL with a decent dedicated clean channel.

900 MKIII definitely has it's moments and goes hard with a boost for thrash.

JCM600...

OG DSL is the true heir to the 2203s crown.

We all know and love the JVM.

Have you had any luck embracing the channel bleed and blending them together? Or does it just get weird?

JMP-1 and 8100/8200 probably deserve a mention in there too, can probably name more records with these on than several of the above combined.

 

[James Freeman]

JCM800 2203 with Gain on 7, Master on 1, else on 5.


Jubilee with the following settings :

Boosted with my custom SD-1 and scooped a little:

 

[James Freeman]

I can clearly hear the grindy brash sound of the clipping diodes when the Jubilee is boosted into high gain, it's a sound but it's not my favorite, I vastly prefer a standard 5150 for high gain.

On the Jubilee the Mids have to be above 6, below that and it gets super scooped very fast.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I'm pretty sure there are almost no good tones with this amp with the tone controls set much below 5. You just get so much tone suck from the insertion loss. I actually really like the behaviour of the EQ otherwise though, the mid pot especially makes it pair with any cab very easily. Its quite sensitive though, almost reminds me of a contour control on an 8100

 

[HotRats]

I'm pretty sure there are almost no good tones with this amp with the tone controls set much below 5. You just get so much tone suck from the insertion loss. I actually really like the behaviour of the EQ otherwise though, the mid pot especially makes it pair with any cab very easily. Its quite sensitive though, almost reminds me of a contour control on an 8100

Yeah, the eq, as we all know, is nothing like the usual Marshall. Mid control is really, really effective and sensitive and there's a big difference between 6 and 7, even 6 and 6.5.
Lows and mids below 5 are 100% a no go unless you're going for metal tones. (Gary Holt settings, as seen in a rig run down are Bass @10, mids@3, highs@5, presence @4, Gain @3.5 Master and Lead master @6)

The highs, though, can be easily set under 5 depending on your cab/speaker, master volume settings and room.

Presence and highs settings can be used in conjunction to shift the high end content where you prefer.

Last night with master set higher than usual (compared to smaller rooms/indoor gigs) had highs just a bit above 3 and presence @5 while usually I set them @4 with presence under 5.

 

[HotRats]

JCM800 2203 with Gain on 7, Master on 1, else on 5.


Jubilee with the following settings :

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Boosted with my custom SD-1 and scooped a little:



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I never set the lead master @10 because set all the way up makes difficult to have a nice volume boost for leads. I never go over 8.

I don't boost for lead but actually do it the other way around, I attenuate for rhythm (with a passive custom made pedal) and remove the attenuation for leads.

IMHO setting the high that high is not a good choice with this amp.

The jubilee has a darker voice compared to a jcm800 and that's part of its beauty.

 

[2112]

Have you had any luck embracing the channel bleed and blending them together? Or does it just get weird?

JMP-1 and 8100/8200 probably deserve a mention in there too, can probably name more records with these on than several of the above combined.

Definitely in the "that's weird/bad" category as opposed to the 4 input marshall "hey that's cool" camp IMO.

8100 is another I'd love to try - as you said it's on a bunch of excellent records.

The 9000 series are another interesting one. I've tried the power amp (heavy AF but sounds great) and the solid state preamp (not bad at all). There's a tube pre too.

Marshall have made a LOT of stuff over the years haven't they.

 

[HotRats]

Gary holt setting, 2022 rig rundown