NPD: The 90s Called…

[JiveTurkey]

Eww Playing Skill!

 

[SonVolt]

I really don’t understand why you included the racist uncle part here

My uncle absolutely despised the Poles. Coincidently, he drove an IROC-Z and always wore a Van Halen T-shirt.

 

[AutomationBias]

absolutely despised [any marginalized group]. Coincidently, he drove an IROC-Z and always wore a Van Halen T-shirt.

Add a mullet, and this was every other dude in the town I grew up in.

 

[SonVolt]

Now picture mullet dude in the George Lynch tee that still thought he was cool in the early '90s when Nirvana hit.

 

[AutomationBias]

Now picture mullet dude in the George Lynch tee that still thought he was cool in the early '90s when Nirvana hit.

Oh, this goes way into the 90s, man. I grew up in Florabama.

 

[SonVolt]

Oh, this goes way into the 90s, man. I grew up in Florabama.

Bushwackers!!!

 

[KingsXJJ]

You're right. Definitely not in the same category. To kids/teens that came of age during the early/mid '90s Kurt was vastly superior to EVH. Eddie was pure cornball cheese from an even cheesier party band that my racist uncle liked.

EVH changed guitar playing for many whether you liked it or were even born yet. Hendrix did too even though he was around way before me.

If you think Nirvana or Kurt did as well for you… good.

 

[EOengineer]

EVH changed guitar playing for many whether you liked it were even born yet. Hendrix did too even though he was around way before me.

If you think Nirvana or Kurt did as well for you… good.

That’s the takeaway with a lot of this stuff…it’s very contextual.

Slash inspired me to pursue guitar listening to those ripping AFD solos when I was in 3rd grade, but it was Cobain who made guitar accessible for many from my generation who enjoyed flashy guitar but weren’t interested in playing those songs and enjoyed simpler material.

Step back another 8-10 years and it’s all solidly EVH and shredders. Go back another 10-20 years and you get the sloppy Jimmy Page licks that inspired countless people.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[SonVolt]

EVH changed guitar playing for many whether you liked it or were even born yet. Hendrix did too even though he was around way before me.

If you think Nirvana or Kurt did as well for you… good.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I was speaking hypothetically from the perspective of a '90s kid. EVH 100% changed guitar playing and his influence on other guitar players is unparalleled. Kurt wrote better songs. These things aren't comparable.

 

[KingsXJJ]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I was speaking hypothetically from the perspective of a '90s kid. EVH 100% changed guitar playing and his influence on other guitar players is unparalleled. Kurt wrote better songs. These things aren't comparable.

They aren’t but this isn’t The Songwriter’s Forum. EVH played killer guitar and designed gear. Cobain wrote or covered great songs.

 

[SonVolt]

They aren’t but this isn’t The Songwriter’s Forum.

Uh.... this is a thread about the '90s Grunge pedal.

 

[EOengineer]

NGL wanting EVH’s tone secret to be revealed as a Grunge pedal through a crate.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Uh.... this is a thread about the '90s Grunge pedal.

Yep, and somebody posted about Cobain and the tales of whether he used it or not. And that continued. It wasn’t me. I said it didn’t affect my opinion one way or another. The guy used other gear that I don’t like either. My opinion of him is that he was the right guy, with the right face and right clothes who wrote some cool songs at the right time. I used to cover a few of his songs live. I also covered Satriani.

Guess which songs came at the start of the show when I was sober and which came near the end of the show when sloshed after a BJ in the RR? Nirvana did make pussies wet. Satch made some guitarists wet. At least back then. There is a difference.

I’d rather be the best guitarist I can be rather than a songwriter on an acoustic for example. I’d like to support a killer singer/songwriter well.
With fresh riffs and leads that fit. It may be entirely different for you… and that’s cool by me.

 

[KingsXJJ]

NGL wanting EVH’s tone secret to be revealed as a Grunge pedal through a crate.

We worked with what we had for sure!

 

[la szum]

FWIW I didn’t think you were trying to stop any conversation from happening. I was more or less just finding an awkward spot to park a dumb joke.

Unfortunately people always associate the Grunge pedal with Cobain because of the name.

People forget Kurt actually used crappier gear than the Grunge Pedal.

 

[EOengineer]

People forget Kurt actually used crappier gear than the Grunge Pedal.

Like that god awful Mesa Studio Preamp? I don’t know what he was thinking. No wonder he offed himself.

 

[la szum]

I liked both EVH and Cobain until I read this thread. Now I am torn like Natalie Imbruglia.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Like that god awful Mesa Studio Preamp? I don’t know what he was thinking. No wonder he offed himself.

Even pitchers hit a ball once in a while.

 

[AutomationBias]

People forget Kurt actually used crappier gear than the Grunge Pedal.

I remember seeing a list of his gear in a guitar magazine* when I was 17 and thinking, "I have better stuff than Kurt Cobain?"

* I do not know how accurate this was

 

[EOengineer]

Even pitchers hit a ball once in a while.

You’re clearly not a Cubs fan.



I will say that IMO the Mesa Studio Presmp was a secret ingredient of sorts in Kurt’s rig, those who follow his old rigs will notice it seems to keep showing up in his live rig through pretty much the entirety of the band’s run.

The clean channel in particular is extremely flattering of dirt pedals and I think that’s a big component to why some of the Nevermind tones sound so awesome (as does his live tone from that era). If I put my old MIJ DS-1 through my studio preamp it gets very close to those tones with very little effort.