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I’d imagine the most they’d do is remove the official naming. But who knows.
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RiffDuck
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That all depends on how they approach the licensing contracts. To my understanding, most of these are essentially treated as endorsement deals, and the artist/brand is unlikely to own the copyright to any part of the algorithms themselves unless there's some messy clause regarding certain reference amps used or something like that, but I would think that's still unlikely given the time and work that goes into creating new digital gear or plugins. There are a ton of reasons these contracts can end or be suddenly broken, and I doubt NDSP wants the existence any of their IP they spent months developing to be contingent on those contracts alone.
In my opinion what would most likely happen if there was a contract issue is the plugin tied to a brand or artist name would be temporarily pulled, then eventually brought back with a generic name. But who knows, maybe there are indeed copyright clauses involved for reference amps or whatever, and I'm sure there are even extreme hypothetical scenarios where NDSP might say "we don't want so much as implied association with this artist or brand" and remove the plugin(s) altogether.
I thought it was a mixture of Bogner Snorkler and BE100?
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[Nathan]
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The fact that he’s stoked to talk about it give me hope that a pumpkin plugin will happen one day
RiffDuck
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I just looked it up and you're right! My mistake
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This is awesome.
The other advantage of laying it all out on the table like Neural did is getting the fans of the plugs to urge companies to get the deals over the finish line.
Mesa still probably be like…
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I think they’re mixes alright but each amp's tied to a switch. Take amp3 for instance: in the Up switch position it's a Bogner Snorkler and a Friedman with the switch Down.
That's how they sound to me. I doubt they went and mixed both amps together on both switch positions.
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The Cali is probably the most under-rated plugin.
MirrorProfiles
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It got a fair bit of hype around launch but it’s definitely misunderstood. I think, like NTS, the range of tones mean it can be easy to land on bad/unexpected tones. It really helps to understand what the switches in Cali do to the actual amp circuit as you can kind of design your own amp with what’s there. It’s just easy to make a weird/bad configuration too.
Nameless, and things like the 5150’s in Nolly and Gojira are way more straightforward and hard to mess up (but with less tonal range as a result)
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My beef is that they releasing this information now, several years from QC launch.
Licensing issues should have been an obvious hurdle from the start but NDSP still decided to advertise support for their plugins on QC, and made no indication which plugins would not receive QC compatibility. I don't think anyone would care if this was revealed early.
It seems shady because for years you could have e.g bought plugins with the expectation that you can use them on the QC.
Personally I never cared for PCOM beyond "you advertised it, so you better deliver" accountability. I'd rather the company focused on adding more unique content to the unit in the form of new effects. For any amp that's not there, there's always some capture or you just use another model.
2dor
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+ there's nothing stopping them from adding amps in but without a formal licensing deal.
Anyway, we'd all have been better off if they would have been upfront with this stuff years ago - very much agreed.
ian_dissonance
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Since it’s getting Misha it should get the laser or whatever, right? More cool shit like that would give me reason to look at it.
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Yeah I think this is exactly it. You can hang yourself pretty easily with that amp.
On the flip side Nolly has a couple of absolute banger presets, (Chokehold and Aggro Mids) so I think the key is just finding a preset you like and then using that as your new starting point.
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Interesting. I suppose that could be the case. My impression was that they had actually mixed the amps but that’s just from listening to the descriptions in videos—I haven’t tried that one myself.
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I mean I think its fair enough to say that Darkglass at the time was probably mainly focused on pedals. Neural at the time was mainly a plugin company. When they announced the QC, that was a huge deal. Neural's first foray into the hardware world. It would have been pretty incredible if Darkglass had the foresight to be like "Hey, actually we don't want you to do anything with Darkglass on the hardware side of things because in a decade we are actually going to be moving in a similar direction, and we don't want you competing."
Like its just the way things played out. It doesn't matter until it does. But yeah, it would have been nice to know all this shit from the beginning. Whats getting ported. How long will this take. etc. etc.
EDIT: I realize now you are talking about just after QC launched, but still. QC launched 6 years ago.
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Way i see it is NDSP jumped the gun over promising PCOM without realizing everything involved, shady practice? maybe but still i dont think most folks who bought or will buy a QC is going to be a deciding factor in either selling their unit or prevent a purchase.
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Way i see it is NDSP jumped the gun over promising PCOM without realizing everything involved, shady practice? maybe bust still i dont think most folks who bought or will be a QC is going to be a deciding factor in either selling their unit or prevent a purchase.
While I applaud much of their recent progress, this is absolutely the case. They'll never hold themselves fully accountable for the dishonest communication that they doubled and tripled down on.
And - as you note - the market has essentially said they don't have to, which is....not a great precedent. But I think that's more a feature of late stage capitalism than anything else.
I just lament that such two very unique pieces of engineering talent - the QC and QC Mini - are tainted by that, but lots of people don't care. Time heals a lot of wounds. And the product is the product, and it's gotten to a good place.
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Basically, Neural can do what ever they want in firmware updates regardless of the end user opinion.
