KAOS HatreD 100

[gergohajer]

My buddy Ákos at KAOS Amps brought his HatreD 100 amp in the studio for a test. I look forward what this badboy offers!

 

[Deadpan]

Looks amazing! Looking forward to hearing it.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Camo Viper is

 

[gergohajer]

Camo Viper is

Ohh dude, the camo Vipers are my childhood dream guitars.

 

[Orvillain]

I look forward what this badby

 

[JerEvil]

I’ve been interring these for some time, but have not been able to risk buying don’t the fact I’d have a hard time moving it if I didn’t get on with it.

Can’t wait to hear what you come up with though.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Never heard of the brand, what’s the background of them? Is the circuit based on something in particular? Curious to see the insides if you’re happy to open up the chassis.

I felt embarrassed enough to have an amp with KRANK and KLEEN written on it in the studio, I think KOAS and HATRED are another level of cringe up from that. It would need to sound outrageously good to justify trying to explain to people why I own one

 

[JiveTurkey]

I could be absolutely wrong but aren't the a rip off of KSR?

Wouldn't it need to be called Polite100 if so?

 

[JerEvil]

I could be absolutely wrong but aren't the a rip off of KSR?

Not even close. These are very 5150’is from the clips I’ve head and pretty aggressive it requiring a boost… so inherently NOT like a KSR

 

[MirrorProfiles]

quite a few demos on their youtube account but some sound pretty badly recorded so be sure to check a few.

Not sure if it’s just me being suggestible but I can hear some similarity to the Diezels they’re often being compared against. In some ways I prefer them to Diezels, a bit more open and less processed sounding. And in some ways I find them to have some of the traits about Diezels I don’t like (soft attack, kind of fuzzy).

Some interesting for sure and i’d be curious to hear some better recorded demos and see some internals/info about what they’re all about.

 

[gergohajer]

Not even close. These are very 5150’is from the clips I’ve head and pretty aggressive it requiring a boost… so inherently NOT like a KSR

It's more like a crossover between Dual Recto, Diezel Herbert and Bogner Ubserschall.

 

[Orvillain]

It's more like a crossover between Dual Recto, Diezel Herbert and Bogner Ubserschall.

Are you sure?

 

[JerEvil]

Must but the aesthetics that they borrowed heavily from

Meh, if you think THIS is borrowed from, look at the NRG stuff…

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Must but the aesthetics that they borrowed heavily from

Looks more like driftwood to me. And I don’t really hear any dual rec or uber in there. More like modded Diezel, but would be interesting what the designer says about it

 

[Mongillo19]

Meh, if you think THIS is borrowed from, look at the NRG stuff…

Ah maybe it's NRG I'm thinking of. I'll delete my posts as obviously I'm wrong

 

[QQQ]

Can’t wait to hear it.

 

[gergohajer]

The video is still unlisted, but I would like to show you guys here asap. Let me know what do you think of the character of this amp.

 

[Orvillain]

The video is still unlisted

Still working on the press release?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Tones sound OK in the video, definitely better than in KAOS own videos.

Did you use the Captor there? I'm guessing he power amp has no negative feedback (at least one one of the settings?) and that's why its called Presence and hi cut?

That would also maybe explain whether there is a reference to a Rectifier design, as that presence knob acts more like a filter (similar to how Vox and Krank do it too when there is no NFB to work with).

There's something kind of flat about the low end but I feel like that might be the Two Notes load (was that used as the load here?). A lot of the time the tone was quite dark/bloated until the presence and treble were cranked sufficiently.

I'd be curious what it's like driving a cab and whether it sounds much different, as a Rectifier power amp changes drastically when using a cab vs using a Two Notes design. I noticed in the Kaos videos the designer mentioned K100 cabs being his favourite, perhaps it was designed to drive these cabs?

Also quite amusing that the transformers are mounted on their side. Are they too tall to fit inside the chassis when mounted the "right" way? Also curious what the construction method is like under the hood. There's so many small amp builders out there, and I'd be kind of hesitant to throw a couple of thousand £ at an amp without knowing how well built it is, whether the parts are high quality and whether its even completely safe to use (Mezzabarba for instance had some pretty dangerous approaches to grounding which I'm presuming have now been fixed).

 

[gergohajer]

Tones sound OK in the video, definitely better than in KAOS own videos.

Did you use the Captor there? I'm guessing he power amp has no negative feedback (at least one one of the settings?) and that's why its called Presence and hi cut?

That would also maybe explain whether there is a reference to a Rectifier design, as that presence knob acts more like a filter (similar to how Vox and Krank do it too when there is no NFB to work with).

There's something kind of flat about the low end but I feel like that might be the Two Notes load (was that used as the load here?). A lot of the time the tone was quite dark/bloated until the presence and treble were cranked sufficiently.

I'd be curious what it's like driving a cab and whether it sounds much different, as a Rectifier power amp changes drastically when using a cab vs using a Two Notes design. I noticed in the Kaos videos the designer mentioned K100 cabs being his favourite, perhaps it was designed to drive these cabs?

Also quite amusing that the transformers are mounted on their side. Are they too tall to fit inside the chassis when mounted the "right" way? Also curious what the construction method is like under the hood. There's so many small amp builders out there, and I'd be kind of hesitant to throw a couple of thousand £ at an amp without knowing how well built it is, whether the parts are high quality and whether its even completely safe to use (Mezzabarba for instance had some pretty dangerous approaches to grounding which I'm presuming have now been fixed).
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I used the Torpedo Live for this demo, where I loaded IRs of Mesa Oversized (V30) & Marshall Vintage (Greenback) cabs captured with Beyerdynamic M160, M130 & M260 mics. These mics are a bit darker ones, but I love darker guitar tones this is why I chose this combo.
The presence+hicut knob is pretty sweet on the amp, it doesn't has that much annoying whistle frequencies around 2K and the midrange is also sweet. Btw, if I know right this is one of the prototype HatreD amps, so I guess he already did some upgrades on the built.