Incredible UAD Bundle Offer from GC

Yeah, all my Waves plugins! Unless Sascha is correct in what he states below-


I’m still on Catalina!

I’m going to risk it regardless as there’s some other things I’d like to function that the OS is holding me back with, namely OBS for live-streaming. I only use a handful of Waves plugins now so if they all shit the bed I’ll just buy the licenses for the ones I use the most. I’ll probably do a little maintenance work on the computer in general now that I’ve got that hard drive on the way. I bought it refurbished and it’s been rockin’ fine for 4 years but the last few months has started showing signs of slowing, hopefully freeing up some space gives it some breathing room.
I got the Waves PRS amp sim back in the day and I was irritated that they stopped updating it until I bought it again for (version 11?) a new Waves version. Just put a sour taste in my mouth. I’m assuming that you probably have version 10 plugins and they aren’t compatible with new macOS versions cuz they aren’t updating the old app?
 
Pura’s plugins are made by Kiive FWIW. I couldn’t pass up for $2 but I can’t really think of where I’ll use any of these.

You very rarely need to pay the waves WUP unless your plugins are REALLY out of date. Most of the time they’ll work just fine.

If they are out of date, try upgrading them to a bundle, or a bigger bundle. You usually won’t pay very much and you’ll get a load of plugins thrown in (as well as WUP reinstated).

Sucks paying for things but it’s so rare that you have to pay that upgrade fee, and I’d rather pay something and have reliable plugins than something free or cheap that never works right.
 
Fwiw, as a funny take, but possibly a decent thing to purchase:

In case it's not automatically applied, this is the coupon code:
"FUCKUADANDGUITARCENTER"



I bought it, at €2.08 really nothing can go wrong (added some tip as well).

I just bought it too and I don't know if I need or want any of it lmao - $3, hell yeah!
 
I’m still on Catalina!

Ok. So which is the minimum OS required for the UAD bundle?
And which versions of the Waves plugins are you running (Waves Central will tell you...)?

’m going to risk it regardless as there’s some other things I’d like to function that the OS is holding me back with, namely OBS for live-streaming.

Why wouldn't that work in case you update your macOS? From all I know, OBS is available for all macOS versions.

Whatever: As said, very often, Waves plugins continue to work unless you switch the machine's main architecture, but that's not the case here.

Anyhow. I just found out that in order to access the Signature Bundle information, you need a "Vault Key" (whatever that is...). Not sure whether you can install it in case you don't have one. Better check before any further actions.

This is what it says on UAD's page:

How do I gain access to the UAD Vault?​

Simply register any UAD Apollo device to be granted UAD Vault access.

Uh-oh. Let's hope you can install the Bundle anyway via UA Connect, now that you have purchased it from GC.

Still: What's the minimum system requirements? You could possibly only do a minimal macOS update (there's some "trick" to get any version, not just the latest available for your machine).
 
I just bought it too and I don't know if I need or want any of it lmao - $3, hell yeah!

Fooled around with that DeathWestern amp - and if you asked me, it looks as if all they did was slapping another UI onto a NAM playback engine. Controls are minimal and they don't seem to work as on any typical amp, more like the generic stuff you find in the standard NAM player.
Might be the same for their "studio room" thing, as in the thing just being an IR loader/mixer.
The other plugins aren't much to write home about, either (didn't check any but the amp so far), it's all stuff you can get for free or as a gift with all kinda other purchases.
Doesn't make me wonder they just throw it out basically for free, the market for those kinda things is completely oversaturated. I mean, it's not that anyone would go all "wow!" because there's a console channel strip. Last time that happened was probably around the turn of the millenium.
Same for pretty much anything in that bundle. So it's likely just a marketing move to make them known and get people interested in future offerings.
Anyhow, not much of a loss, is it?
 
Ok. So which is the minimum OS required for the UAD bundle?
And which versions of the Waves plugins are you running (Waves Central will tell you...)?



Why wouldn't that work in case you update your macOS? From all I know, OBS is available for all macOS versions.

Whatever: As said, very often, Waves plugins continue to work unless you switch the machine's main architecture, but that's not the case here.

Anyhow. I just found out that in order to access the Signature Bundle information, you need a "Vault Key" (whatever that is...). Not sure whether you can install it in case you don't have one. Better check before any further actions.

This is what it says on UAD's page:



Uh-oh. Let's hope you can install the Bundle anyway via UA Connect, now that you have purchased it from GC.

Still: What's the minimum system requirements? You could possibly only do a minimal macOS update (there's some "trick" to get any version, not just the latest available for your machine).

I think the plugins are V9, but it’s been a few years since I paid attention. As for OBS, it just wouldn’t open on my computer and all the suggestions were aimed at ensuring my Mac was up to date with the OS. I just gave up on it because every time there’s an OS update all the people using Waves plugs bitch about it and those make up 95% of my plugin usage.

I got an access key after purchasing the bundle, not sure if that gives vault access or not, but if it’s going to require me to buy more shit GC will be getting a call asking for a refund as it did not inform me I’d need anything else previously.

I’ll peek around tonight to see what the deal is with it all.
 
I think the plugins are V9, but it’s been a few years since I paid attention.

Ok, that, admittedly, is fairly old and might result in troubles running a vastly newer macOS version.

So, what I'd do is, I'd defenitely recommend creating an image of your entire iMac (you're fortunate enough still being able doing so, it's pretty much impossible ever since the event of Apple's silicone machines). Just download Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper, the unregistered free versions will do (no need for incremental backups atm, plus, there's always Time Machine for these kinda tasks). They create a bootable imaged install of your entire system. When done, do a testboot from the external drive, just to see whether it works. No need to do much, just boot, click around and shut it down again.
You could then do whatever you feel like to the internal drive, should things go havoc, boot from the external drive, load the imaging program again and copy that image to the internal drive. You'll be back 1:1 to what you had before. And I'd defenitely do it that way instead of relying on a Time Machine backup, which might not work 100% once theres macOS version jumps involved.

I got an access key after purchasing the bundle, not sure if that gives vault access or not, but if it’s going to require me to buy more shit GC will be getting a call asking for a refund as it did not inform me I’d need anything else previously.

So, did you install UA Connect already? That's what you need anyway.
And what are the minimum system requirements for the bundle?
 
Ok, that, admittedly, is fairly old and might result in troubles running a vastly newer macOS version.

So, what I'd do is, I'd defenitely recommend creating an image of your entire iMac (you're fortunate enough still being able doing so, it's pretty much impossible ever since the event of Apple's silicone machines). Just download Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper, the unregistered free versions will do (no need for incremental backups atm, plus, there's always Time Machine for these kinda tasks). They create a bootable imaged install of your entire system. When done, do a testboot from the external drive, just to see whether it works. No need to do much, just boot, click around and shut it down again.
You could then do whatever you feel like to the internal drive, should things go havoc, boot from the external drive, load the imaging program again and copy that image to the internal drive. You'll be back 1:1 to what you had before. And I'd defenitely do it that way instead of relying on a Time Machine backup, which might not work 100% once theres macOS version jumps involved.



So, did you install UA Connect already? That's what you need anyway.
And what are the minimum system requirements for the bundle?

I’m definitely going to ensure the backup is working properly, this damn computer has ALL my recordings from the last 6 years on it. Every single one of them.

When I went to install UA Connect I got the alert that I needed to update my Mac, which is interesting because ChatGPT is telling me it should work on Catalina, like it is for the SIgnature bundle. The Signature Bundle isn’t even on UAD’s site, so I can’t see the requirements from them.
 
The Signature Bundle isn’t even on UAD’s site, so I can’t see the requirements from them.

Yeah, that's the part hidden in their "Vault" (wtf?). I only noticed that strange thing because I wanted to look up the system requirements.
You know, it's possibly the best idea to ask UAD's support before going any further. Otherwise you might be spending endless hours just end up where you started.
 
Fuck waves up their slimy buttcunts. I blew a bunch of money on their plugs TWICE and got fucked BOTH times.

I've never heard of Sam Pura before but he's a local boy, that deal was just too good to pass up. This might break my DAW hiatus
Tried the amp sim and the reverb just now. Nothing special, HXN does it better.
 
Ok, you need Big Sur (direct Catalina sucessor) to install UA Connect:

And there's at least an issue with the installer of Waves V9 plugins under Big Sur because there seems to be some 32bit leftover code. Anyhow, there seem to be some workarounds:


Also, as you don't need to reinstall them when updating your macOS, things may just continue to work.


Man, I really appreciate you digging into that! Thank you!!!

I had a perturbing final 30 minutes of my work day and that post just washed it all away, really, thank you that was very kind of you, man.

New hard drive was delivered today and as soon as I plugged it in I got a prompt to store the Time Machine backups on it. Did a quick check to see if anyone has had any issues with Time Machine between OSX' and fortunately, looks good and safe. Once this backup is done I'm just going to jump to updating to Big Sur...though I'm tempted to try a newer OSX as I know Logic has some pretty great updates in the last year or so, particularly the stem splitter I'm currently paying $20 a month to Moises for.

Shit, I actually have a 2015 iMac, not a 2017. Fortunately, I can put Big Sur on this at least. So no new Logic features until I buy a new Mac. That'll have to wait until January. What a pain in the ass. I'm so used to things just working right away on these things I didn't even think about needing a software update.
 
So no new Logic features until I buy a new Mac.

Well, you could go the Open Core Legacy route, which would allow you to install any newer macOS (at least so far) on your iMac.

There's a wealth of tutorials and what not around, the entire thing seems to be pretty foolproof as well, but without a doubt you would have to spend some time reading and setting everything up.
Here's a rather new of the countless tutorial videos:


So far, Apple doesn't seem to care much, so your Mac will stay pretty much entirely functional (including using the App Store and what not), there's really just very little things you need to look out for (possibly such as not installing updates automatically, but you're not doing that anyway). Logic updates and what not will just work as you're used to.

I still kinda think about doing this to my old Mac Pro, but as it's really old (2010), it might actually be one of the models running into some more serious "glitches", so I'll just keep it as is. With your iMac however, there should be little issues, so it might be worth trying.

Fwiw, if you decided to go that route, you should really check whether all the software you really need is still supported.
Personally, even if I did a pretty huge jump (all the way from Mojave to Sonoma), I experienced rather little issues. The worst thing (by far) being the loss of Native Instrument's Battery 3 (Battery 4 is an offense to human intelligence and calling it an improvement over version 3 is something only imbeciles would do, let alone it's not replacing used instances automatically in older projects, so that's a lot of manual work if you wanted old stuff to still work). Others than that, it might've been some pretty irrelevant smaller plugins, a video player and what not - nothing substantial at all.

But (and that might be somewhat important for you): You may need to check for your Waves plugins, because, while there might be some tricks to expand their life beyond what is the official stance, V9 is really getting old. OTOH, in case you manage to make them work under Big Sur, they may as well be working on newer versions.
One thing is for certain, though: In case you get a new Mac, they won't work at all but need recoverage (I think at least something like V12-13 is required to work on silicon Macs at all). So maybe it could even be a decent idea to extend the life of your machine in case you're not permanently hitting a CPU limit.

Anyhow, and I really can't stress that enough: As this is easily possible with your iMac (doesn't work that way anymore on new machines, which is a horrible shame): Get a dedicated external drive the size of the internal one (could be a rather cheap HDD) and create a bootable external copy of your system (Time Machine won't do that), using Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper. Zero need to spend money for registering them, the process is absolutely self-explaining as well, all you need is some time (you better do that overnight, it might really take quite some hours). It's the best security net there ever was for Mac users (which is why it's such a shame they took that away - or at least made things way more convoluted).

Oh, I just looked things up. Not sure which iMac model exactly you're using, but it seems it's one without an SSD as the main drive. Correct?
Because if so, this is one thing you should *really* consider: Exchange the internal main drive with an SSD. Without exaggeration, this is the most significant update to any computer ever. Pretty much everything will feel as if you had an entirely new machine (sure, CPU power is the same, but boot times, program load times, sample load times, etc. - they all will profit incredibly).
There's very detailed descriptions on how to do it yourself on ifixit, but in case you're unsure, there's certainly plenty of folks who would do it for you, and apart from the SSD you slap in, it won't cost you an arm and a leg.

Man, I really appreciate you digging into that!

You're most welcome.
 
As a small additional thing: Should you decide to go the Open Core Legacy route (which I would possibly recommend, even if it's a bit of preparation and work), while you might then be able to install the latest Logic version, some things won't be available anyway, namely the Stem Splitter (as you've mentioned it) and some plugins (the Quantec verb for example). These depend on a new silicon Mac.
 
Oh, I just looked things up. Not sure which iMac model exactly you're using, but it seems it's one without an SSD as the main drive. Correct?
Because if so, this is one thing you should *really* consider: Exchange the internal main drive with an SSD. Without exaggeration, this is the most significant update to any computer ever. Pretty much everything will feel as if you had an entirely new machine (sure, CPU power is the same, but boot times, program load times, sample load times, etc. - they all will profit incredibly).
There's very detailed descriptions on how to do it yourself on ifixit, but in case you're unsure, there's certainly plenty of folks who would do it for you, and apart from the SSD you slap in, it won't cost you an arm and a leg.

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Actually, that was one bit of information I gathered before I bought this and was the final deciding factor between another iMac I was looking at, as this one has a 2T SSD. I just have 1.5T worth of shit on it! Generally it only starts messing it up when I'm running way too many plugins, or if I have a dense Logic session and start using Fabfilter's stuff. Some of the Superior Drummer kits I've made can take up a ton of RAM as well.....add that to me never shutting this thing off. At best I have CleanMyMac that I run every month or so to clean shit up, but I don't know how effective that is at keeping everything legitimately 'clean'. External SSD's are cheap enough now it's stupid not to have a couple on hand. I'm going to order another and start saving all my Logic sessions on it, which make up 95% of the storage space now.

I'll probably skip out on upgrading past Big Sur for now, it's tempting but for the time being I need this computer to function every time I sit behind it, the way it's been functioning. I don't think about this enough, but this computer is rather integral to me maintaining a healthy headspace because if I can't sit down and record when I need/want to, I turn into a major fucking asshole, mostly to myself. Once I have a new one I'll probably dick around with it a bit, though. I used to enjoy working on computers, now I just want it to work 100% of the time!
 
a brand new m4 mac mini costs slightly more than one of these plugin bundles. running an unsupported OS on an ancient machine is just asking for headaches when it comes to plugins and DAW’s.

I’d only ever do this kind of thing on a spare computer, not my main rig.
 
a brand new m4 mac mini costs slightly more than one of these plugin bundles. running an unsupported OS on an ancient machine is just asking for headaches when it comes to plugins and DAW’s.

Not really. There's a whole plethora of folks expanding their now unsupported Mac's lifespan using the Open Core Patcher, professionally working audio folks included. And by now it's become an incredibly well documented thing, so pretty much anyone with half a brain should be able to get things going.

In addition, as long as you're using an Intel Mac, you can always make sure to have your last working macOS iteration 100% intact because they allow you to boot from external devices which you could re-save to the internal one at any time should things go wrong (as said, that's not possible anymore with silicon Macs). Ultimately, this is pretty much the same as doing it on a spare computer.

Also, while an M4 Mini is pretty much a bargain, you might have to factor in quite some costs for an updated plugin suite. In Drew's case, that'd be all his Waves stuff, because those V9 versions very very likely just won't work on silicon Macs, not even in Rosetta mode. He'd also need to factor in a new monitor and some external drive(s).

So that's around 1.5k extra cost to get you running. IMO, it only makes sense in case you're constantly hitting a CPU wall.
 
Not really. There's a whole plethora of folks expanding their now unsupported Mac's lifespan using the Open Core Patcher, professionally working audio folks included. And by now it's become an incredibly well documented thing, so pretty much anyone with half a brain should be able to get things going.

In addition, as long as you're using an Intel Mac, you can always make sure to have your last working macOS iteration 100% intact because they allow you to boot from external devices which you could re-save to the internal one at any time should things go wrong (as said, that's not possible anymore with silicon Macs). Ultimately, this is pretty much the same as doing it on a spare computer.

Also, while an M4 Mini is pretty much a bargain, you might have to factor in quite some costs for an updated plugin suite. In Drew's case, that'd be all his Waves stuff, because those V9 versions very very likely just won't work on silicon Macs, not even in Rosetta mode. He'd also need to factor in a new monitor and some external drive(s).

So that's around 1.5k extra cost to get you running. IMO, it only makes sense in case you're constantly hitting a CPU wall.
Just saying, I’ve been there myself. It’s a time suck to track down things that randomly stop working and it’s hard to get any kind of help from people when they know you’re going rogue on unsupported machines.

Same goes for all my friends who were on Hackintosh’s and custom builds. Literally every single one of them is just on a newer Mac now, the amount of fudging around just becomes too annoying and sucks too much time.

If someone can afford to spend money on full suite of plugins, then a new computer isn’t going to be the end of the world. Plenty of very good monitors and hard drives going cheap these days too, spending $100 here and there for shit that actually works as intended is a no brainer (vs buying more plugins just to delay the inevitable).
 
Just saying, I’ve been there myself.

When was that? When I first thought about going that route, things have been way worse documented than these days. Should be pretty foolproof today.

t’s a time suck to track down things that randomly stop working

That shouldn't happen in case you don't update (or only do so after gathering proper information).

and it’s hard to get any kind of help from people when they know you’re going rogue on unsupported machines.

Admittedly, that's an issue that could turn up, especially in case you're trying to get support from official sources. Plugin crashing? "Sorry, we can't help as you're running an OS on a not supported machine".
I'm not reading much of that, though, and by now I know quite some folks running Macs via OLP.

If someone can afford to spend money on full suite of plugins, then a new computer isn’t going to be the end of the world. Plenty of very good monitors and hard drives going cheap these days too, spending $100 here and there for shit that actually works as intended is a no brainer (vs buying more plugins just to delay the inevitable).

I'm not even completely disagreeing, but I'm one of the folks actually supporting sustainable things as much as I can. Call me an old hippie if you will. Until last year my main computer was a Mac Pro from 2010 (that I bought 2nd hand in 2013), I also used a Macbook from 2008 until around 6 years ago regularly. And I'm still thinking about use cases for the Mac Pro (right now it only serves as a machine allowing me to load old projects), will perhaps even turn it into a triple boot thing (macOS, Windows, Linux). I just don't like Apple's business tactics in forcing you to purchase a new machine every 6 years in case you want to stay up to date, especially in case there's little (or even no) technical reasons.
 
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