Incoming - amp that no-one else on this forum will care about

Yeah, this little thing rips. And it's cool because it's not quite a sound that I typically go for in Fractal land. A little sharper than a tweed type sound. Its great with the es-225, and even holds up to my current vibe of Eastman T-64 (es-330 copy w/ hot Lollar P90s) tuned down to D Standard with big flatwound strings - was worried the 10" would lose some authority with this but not at all.

I love that it's just a master volume that works, too. I'm so sick of all these various attenuation/power scaling/blah-blah-blah approaches. Just give me a knob that I turn for tone and a knob that I turn for volume.
 
Fwiw, the Supro model in Helix has been my latest, favorite model. Cleans and eob tones are :chef.
Not quite the real thing though.. :grin
 
maguchi said:
Hmm :unsure:, how about happy new amp day?
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It was a combination of encouragement to plug that vintage 225 into what ever he likes (from someone who does the same with vintage guitars),

and excitement of a loop present on that amp, cause I believe to combination of an amp and digital gear is a 1+1=3 scenario, both in the scenario where you take the (pre)amp as the core of your sound, as well a the scenario where you use modeled amps or preamps into its return.
 
Boudoir Guitar said:
It is before the master volume which is a little odd,
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Afaik that uncommon, i ran into a few others. To me an advantage. When you use it as a powered speaker, you don’t have to plug into a hot input (=noise reduction), and when you use it in a stereo setup, you use it to balance volumes between amps.

Boudoir Guitar said:
Using my Volante with it for reverb, but might need to get a Flint for Trem.
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Wouldn’t the axe cover that?..or are you aiming a board to go with that amp?
 
AFKAEjay(retired) said:
Wouldn’t the axe cover that?..or are you aiming a board to go with that amp?
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Will use it with and without the Axe. The Fractal primarily lives in my home office/jam space in a detached garage about twenty meters behind our house on the back edge of our property. The primary driver for the amp was wanting to having something small and inconspicuous to play through in the house. I don’t want the clutter of even a small pedalboard. But a single pedal powered by a single little 9 volt power supply that doesn’t need to be pulled out onto the floor is fine. I don’t need dirt pedals and fuzz and delay and rotary speaker etc., etc., for this kind of playing, but reverb and ideally tremolo are really nice to have. I snagged a used Keeley Hydra off reverb for a buck fifty last night - so $600 all in on this side rig that’s flexible enough to also work in 4cm with the AxeFx is great.
 
AFKAEjay(retired) said:
Afaik that uncommon, i ran into a few others. To me an advantage. When you use it as a powered speaker, you don’t have to plug into a hot input (=noise reduction), and when you use it in a stereo setup, you use it to balance volumes between amps.
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As I’ve thought about this more, it’s an interesting choice for an amp aimed at working with pedals. Curious whether running reverb in the loop will give the sound of amp reverb while still letting me plug straight into the front of the amp.
 
I've not really checked out these newer Supros but this is really interesting. I've been half-heatedly trying to find an alternative for using a Deluxe Reverb live for a while, the effects loop and master volume in this wattage/size make these really appealing....
 
Boudoir Guitar said:
As I’ve thought about this more, it’s an interesting choice for an amp aimed at working with pedals. Curious whether running reverb in the loop will give the sound of amp reverb while still letting me plug straight into the front of the amp.
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Afaik the position of the MV doesn’t matter with regards to sound. You get preamp out in both scenarios, and whatever is between the MV and the powersection is most likely not “soundshaping”…just level.
I could well imagine that before the MV, the chances of getting an appropriate signal level for the loop are a bit higher then offer it, assuming bedroom use.
 
Fishbulb said:
I've not really checked out these newer Supros but this is really interesting. I've been half-heatedly trying to find an alternative for using a Deluxe Reverb live for a while, the effects loop and master volume in this wattage/size make these really appealing....
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Check the supersonic 22 also! Deluxe housing, I assume same powersection, 2 channels, burn has a MV, efx loop, clean channel has a vibro and a bassman mode.
 
Fishbulb said:
I've not really checked out these newer Supros but this is really interesting. I've been half-heatedly trying to find an alternative for using a Deluxe Reverb live for a while, the effects loop and master volume in this wattage/size make these really appealing....
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Less scooped than a DRRI. Breakup is a little more towards the Vox side of things than Fender. Solid State Rectifier probably explains why it feels less compressed than the Princeton Reverb style amps I usually plug into. Dunno how loud in can go clean -- not gonna burn my ears out trying that. But seems like probably at least as loud as a Deluxe? They do make models with built in reverb and/or tremolo if that matters to you. This 1x10 is noticeably smaller than a Princeton (and twice the watts).
 
Alex Kenivel said:
I love the looks of Supro amps! And it has a 10" Creamback?

I don't need another amp
I don't need another amp
I don't need another amp
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This is an older model with the Eminence-made Supro branded speaker. Actually works quite well, though I imagine a cream back would be great too. At $600-ish used from GC, etc., it's a solid bargain of an amp. I snagged a used Keeley Hydra for verb/trem so I'm $600 all in on this rig, which is waaaaaaay cheaper than used PRRIs go for these days.
 
Haven't set it up in full 4CM with the AxeFx yet, but both Guitar into Fractal input running a full pedals + amp rig output into effects return and Guitar into Fractal input running a small drive pedal only preset with output 3 maxed into amp input sounded great.

Using the Axe in front of the amp and all blocks deactivated -- I couldn't tell a difference between that and guitar going straight into amp input. Digital conversion did not kill touch sensitivity or anything. With drive pedals on, felt perfectly natural and sounded great.

Using the amp as basically a tube powered cab for the Fractal also sounded great.

Which take you straight to the "Wait, why am I doing this again if everything sounds good?"

Right, because I don't want to keep an AxeFx, or even an FM3, w/ powered cab in the house.
 
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