Friedman IR-Load

[Chocol8]

I would say that a version of those with a master volume is a better solution

I would say you are way off in left field with that. There is no way to put a master volume on an amp that gets part of its character from an over driven power stage or saturated output transformer without losing that character. It’s physically impossible to do.

You get WAY better results if you can present these amps with a proper impedance curve, and then reamp. The key is the amp used for reamping needs to be better than the junk marketed to guitarists for many years.

The IR-Load looks like it will be a great product because it claims to address the load issues and the power amp issues while also adding a stereo loop and outputs. We will see, but what they are saying is very clear and very promising.

Maybe it’s not for your use case or maybe you just don’t get it, but it’s very different than the OX, and for a lot of people, seems like it will be a significantly better solution.

 

[Frodebro]

No it’s not - the digital sauce makes this very different and is the reason I don’t understand this product. “I prefer to use tubes to digital modeling so I’ll put this digital model on the back of my tube amp so I don’t have to use digital modeling”

You're looking at this from a unique perspective. This isn't about preferring tubes over digital modeling, it's just a load box/reamper that has stereo outputs. It is obviously not something you would personally have any use for, but at the same time there are a shitload of people who will love it. So chalk it up to "not for me" and stick with the gear that you dig.

 

[Chocol8]

I don’t understand this product.

This is the problem. Not the product. You seem to have the mindset that if anything is digital you might as well toss out all analog.

I am guessing you don’t have much if any experience with great NMV amps and reamping. For those of us who do, the reason for this product are pretty obvious.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

This is the problem. Not the product. You seem to have the mindset that if anything is digital you might as well toss out all analog.

I am guessing you don’t have much if any experience with great NMV amps and reamping. For those of us who do, the reason for this product are pretty obvious.

If you have great results re-amping a loaded tube amp…why would you bother with this?

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

My last point is - if this product were made by Line6 or Amplitube or NeuralDSP, and the pitch was “we’ve used digital modeling to make a 100 watt Class D power amp feel like a tube amp. Trust us, it’s like 100 tube watts”, bruh. There would be nothing but skepticism.

 

[paisleywookiee]

and this is why it’s making the OxBox seem appealing (it’s not, actually) because my understanding is that the reactance impacts what kind of digital sauce is being applied, but in all cases digital sauce is being applied. Because so far they’ve been clear as mud as to what this thing actually does and what problem it tries to solve.

With reactance at zero, the effect is minimal, and only there are all because they’re not switching the conversion out of the circuit. I think the dude said like 1ms latency.

 

[paisleywookiee]

load box/reamper

NMV amps and reamping

Whoa whoa whoa guys. Careful what you call it. You wouldn’t want to use the incorrect term! Someone might get confused!!

 

[Frodebro]

Whoa whoa whoa guys. Careful what you call it. You wouldn’t want to use the incorrect term! Someone might get confused!!

You're right. It's a reducer/re-increaser thingy.

 

[Chocol8]

If you have great results re-amping a loaded tube amp…why would you bother with this?

With all due respect, I have come to the conclusion that you are a complete fucking idiot and any further attempts to explain it to you are a waste of time.

 

[Chocol8]

Whoa whoa whoa guys. Careful what you call it. You wouldn’t want to use the incorrect term! Someone might get confused!!

Sorry, I keep forgetting that if I amplify a guitar signal, reduce its level, and then amplify it again, I haven’t re-amplified it.

 

[paisleywookiee]

With all due respect, I have come to the conclusion that you are a complete fucking idiot and any further attempts to explain it to you are a waste of time.

Nah he’s a good dude. I think stuff like this can be divisive in appeal, and everyone has strong opinions.

I have a friend irl who doesn’t get the appeal of this either.

 

[Chocol8]

I have a friend irl who doesn’t get the appeal of this either.

If it doesn't appeal to you or doesn't solve a problem you have, move on. I am excited for this tech because my current solution that sounds great weighs somewhere around 58 pounds, and everything else I have tried is a sonic compromise.

 

[paisleywookiee]

If it doesn't appeal to you or doesn't solve a problem you have, move on. I am excited for this tech because my current solution that sounds great weighs somewhere around 58 pounds, and everything else I have tried is a sonic compromise.

I get it. I think this is cool as hell too, and unfortunately I sold my amps otherwise I’d get one. It basically allows you to run a Bradshaw-style rig in a small box.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

If it doesn't appeal to you or doesn't solve a problem you have, move on. I am excited for this tech because my current solution that sounds great weighs somewhere around 58 pounds, and everything else I have tried is a sonic compromise.

I will. But I think I get three days to vent.

 

[AlbertA]

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

I will. But I think I get three days to vent.

Why? If it's not made for you you can vent?

 

[paisleywookiee]

Why? If it's not made for you you can vent?

Yes.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Why? If it's not made for you you can vent?

What? You want a forum where folks only commented about products they loved? I get being annoyed when someone brings five year old baggage to the table every time a certain company blinks, but surely there’s room for an annoying twat to be annoying for a couple of pages early in a thread about a new product?

 

[paisleywookiee]

Ooh, 1:01! Dave said it reamps! What an idiot! Doesn't he know how his own device works?!

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

From the video, $1499

Fan cooled, hope it's super silent. Dislike fan noise.