Better than FM3 turbo, any Kemper, etc. very limited fx. Hybrid profiling/modeling.

[Enchilada Jones]

Guitar into Chroma Console, stereo out into stereo in PolyAmple, stereo out into interface.

Limitations are good when they are also inspiring.

Does it alias? Fuck if I know! Don’t care. I know my FM3 Turbo and Kempers have been giving me side eye for over a week now cause I can’t stop picking it to play.

 

[Mongillo19]

Actually from my understanding those are NAM profiles (or a version of NAM). So kinda funny you say Kemper is giving you side eye and in the other thread pounding the table about aliasing and accuracy.

All at the same time preaching how great the more accurate NAM profiles sound in comparison. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

With that said I did want to try one but didn't love you couldn't load your own NAM profiles

 

[BenIfin]

Yep its a NAM Player that you cant load NAM profiles into. Yep - the lack-of-aliasing is not brilliant.

Do you like it and it inspires you to play and does it sound and feel good for your needs ? .... ALL GOOD !!!

/ Thread

 

[dws2384]

I had a chroma console. Measured the latency…I think even with all the effects off it’s still like 7-8ms and 10+ in most instances. It’s certainly a thing, and maybe for you it’s better, but I would say for most people it’s not.

 

[BenIfin]

Actually from my understanding those are NAM profiles (or a version of NAM). So kinda funny you say Kemper is giving you side eye and in the other thread pounding the table about aliasing and accuracy.

All at the same time preaching how great the more accurate NAM profiles sound in comparison. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

With that said I did want to try one but didn't love you couldn't load your own NAM profiles

I too am happy to be corrected (?) but I also think the Polyample does not load NAM profiles natively - there is a "conversion" process (?) - just checked the website and there is nothing claiming "Native NAM" profile loading and playback - so I'd say a conversion process is certain - as otherwise, it would be highlighted in the blurbs for the pedal

I had a chroma console. Measured the latency…I think even with all the effects off it’s still like 7-8ms and 10+ in most instances. It’s certainly a thing, and maybe for you it’s better, but I would say for most people it’s not.

Add that to the Polyamples latency and that's a total no-go - you are probably looking at a real world 10ms to 15ms latency depending on what's loaded (?)

But again - if its good/great for you - then it is good/great for you :)

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

The amount of options folks go through to get rid of option paralysis is humorous.

The only thing I've found to kill option paralysis is to just stick with something; learn what I like in it and use those parts. No piece of gear has made me less curious about other pieces of gear whether those other pieces of gear are things I'd have to buy or digital models in a box I already owned.

 

[BenIfin]

The amount of options folks go through to get rid of option paralysis is humorous.

The only thing I've found to kill option paralysis is to just stick with something; learn what I like in it and use those parts. No piece of gear has made me less curious about other pieces of gear whether those other pieces of gear are things I'd have to buy or digital models in a box I already owned.

Option paralysis - most often quoted about Fractal units is total garbage. If there is a button or switch and you don't want to use it - easy answer - just . dont . use . it.

Its not rocket science ... just be thankful your modeler isn't designed and built by SpaceX

 

[JiveTurkey]

Actually from my understanding those are NAM profiles (or a version of NAM). So kinda funny you say Kemper is giving you side eye and in the other thread pounding the table about aliasing and accuracy.

All at the same time preaching how great the more accurate NAM profiles sound in comparison. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

With that said I did want to try one but didn't love you couldn't load your own NAM profiles

 

[Mongillo19]

AM I WRONG JT

 

[JiveTurkey]

AM I WRONG JT

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

If you're having fun playing, congrats! Sorry to add water to the wet blanket party.

 

[la szum]

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Guitar into Chroma Console, stereo out into stereo in PolyAmple, stereo out into interface.

Limitations are good when they are also inspiring.

Does it alias? Fuck if I know! Don’t care. I know my FM3 Turbo and Kempers have been giving me side eye for over a week now cause I can’t stop picking it to play.

Sweet!

The Chroma Console is part of a Rig (just that into a Fender Vibrolux) that I keep at my Mom's house,
where she lives alone and I need to check on her several times a week. So I'll make her Dinner a few
times per week and jam while I wait. She says she loves it, too. True story!

It's one word: EPIC!

You could do an entire Album with that pedal alone as your tonal and creative center.. Probably the best
piece of gear I have purchased, and had the most fun with, in 2025.

Fun is fun. Inspiring is inspiring.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

I was offering this up very much tongue in cheek. This is the antithesis to Fractal, Kemper et al. And yet its great!
It’s an engineers nightmare. It’s an old wooden roller coaster ride not a limousine. It’s challenging and fun and fun leads to creativity. It’s best feature is all the limitations that force me to find ways to make it work.

So kinda funny you say Kemper is giving you side eye and in the other thread pounding the table about aliasing and accuracy.All at the same time preaching how great the more accurate NAM profiles sound in comparison. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

I’m not sure where you are going with that. In that thread I’m not a proponent for accuracy. Regardless, I was poking fun at the other thread, all of us so myself included as a target.

I had a chroma console. Measured the latency…I think even with all the effects off it’s still like 7-8ms and 10+ in most instances. It’s certainly a thing, and maybe for you it’s better, but I would say for most people it’s not.

Chroma Console latency, sure but everything about it is anti-precise. Yet easy to make music with if you just relax. Engineers nightmare.
Bordering on train wreck actually. Can you keep it on the rails and into the station on time (pardon the pun).
I do find I need to keep the effects mix low individually and the over all mix usually at or below 50% so the direct guitar signal is the prominent voice in the attack. So latency isn’t as drastic. Although sometimes mix on full and just lean into it and find the groove.

Also, just to be very clear, I don’t really think this is ‘better than’ (insert name of modeler/profiler here).

It is just another tool. I do think tools that make you better are great and often they aren’t the best tool you can buy.

 

[[Nathan]]

"Better", lol

Both are cool pedals and approaches to get the job done and I'd probably have a blast with playing through the rig, but ultimately I know its not the setup for me and I'd hate it. Absolutely no knock on what you like vs what I like and no knock on the tech of the two pedals either. Many setups just work for some people/genres and vice versa... my drop G caveman rigs aren't going to do much for p&w (I mean if they played in drop G it would haha).

It's also good that the chroma console and polyample are doing what they say on the box... and without resurrecting the full kemper thread here, is not the case when it comes to profiling accuracy with the kemper. So yes when the tools work as expected and it matches your workflow/creation flow then thats a win win!

 

[Mongillo19]

Option paralysis - most often quoted about Fractal units is total garbage. If there is a button or switch and you don't want to use it - easy answer - just . dont . use . it.

Its not rocket science ... just be thankful your modeler isn't designed and built by SpaceX

It definitely is thrown at FAS the most in the digital space.

I will say I clam up when I see delay/reverb/chorus/comp settings.....but that isn't digital and or analog specific

Honestly if/when I end up with Helix Stadium, will be very excited to use focus mode with those effects. At the very least just to get a basic understanding of how the controls interact. Not that you need a Helix Stadium to do your own research but it is certainly a nice touch!

 

[Sascha Franck]

I had a chroma console. Measured the latency…I think even with all the effects off it’s still like 7-8ms and 10+ in most instances.

Ouch! I had my eyes (or rather ears...) on that thing ever since it was released, considering getting one some day. But that is quite a bit of latency (and unfortunately, while I'm defenitely not Mr. "In The Pocket", for whatever reasons I seem to be pretty sensible when it comes to latency). Maybe serviceable in some situations, but as I'd nest it into the loop of whatever modeler (right now a GT-1000, which fortunately has extremely low latency), that might easily push things over the tipping point.
So thanks for the info, guess I'll have to look for another fun toy (something I ocassionally want to add to the existing bread'n'butter stuff).

 

[Sascha Franck]

The only thing I've found to kill option paralysis is to just stick with something; learn what I like in it and use those parts.

Amen to that.
These days, I actually actively look for option paralysis every now and then. Well, sort of - because it's not exactly paralysis. Let's possibly rather call it "option adventures". And when I find something, that something may stick. And in case I don't, I happily return to what I already like.
Fwiw, out of the HX-verse, these days I'm pretty much down to 2 amps (any another 1-2 additional ones for recording purposes) and 3 of the internal dirt pedals. Cabs are down to 2 IRs (one just being a slight variation) and 1 internal cab. That's all I ever need for my core sounds.