Baritone, 7 string or 7 string baritone?

[JiveTurkey]

JT showing up to the first band practice

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[gearJunkie]

I love my Novo baritone ....

but for the brootz, I prefer my 7 strings.

 

[JiveTurkey]

@gearJunkie ; I LOVE that Aristedeseses

Dark Knight baritone is out for delivery. We are about to cross a previously untraversed rubicon (AKA guitar shopping via Amazon)

 

[DrewJD82]

First 5. Pretty eclectically tuned bunch.
Break Stuff---Limp Bizkit
Falling Away from Me---Korn
Beautiful People---Manson
King Nothing---Metallica
Bodies---Drowning Pool

I knew bits and pieces of most. I will probably learn the Manson song on the 5 block ride to the first jam session

Man, replace “Falling Away From Me” with “Blind” and this is a quarter of my high school band’s setlist!

 

[Mikael Dez]

@gearJunkie ; I LOVE that Aristedeseses

Dark Knight baritone is out for delivery. We are about to cross a previously untraversed rubicon (AKA guitar shopping via Amazon)

I'd say you're a brave man, but returning shit on Amazon is so easy that it's a safe gamble imo.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Man, replace “Falling Away From Me” with “Blind” and this is a quarter of my high school band’s setlist!

Tuning is all over the place. Even if I am trying to transpose each song's key a bit to cut down on that. Korn doesn't sound right unless you are keeping it close to A as possible.

I'm of course also figuring out that a modeler is a much easier way of wrangling the effects needs of something like Korn or Deftones vs. amp and board (which is want I ultimately wanted to use this as an excuse for anyway)

I'd say you're a brave man, but returning shit on Amazon is so easy that it's a safe gamble imo.

Yeah; this is probably a VERRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY slippery slope for me

 

[Mikael Dez]

Yeah; this is probably a VERRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY slippery slope for me

Jeff Bezos:

 

[DrewJD82]

Tuning is all over the place. Even if I am trying to transpose each song's key a bit to cut down on that. Korn doesn't sound right unless you are keeping it close to A as possible.

I'm of course also figuring out that a modeler is a much easier way of wrangling the effects needs of something like Korn or Deftones vs. amp and board (which is want I ultimately wanted to use this as an excuse for anyway)


Yeah; this is probably a VERRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY slippery slope for me

Yeah, Korn is way too recognizable in A standard that deviating is glaringly obvious. Maybe if they didn’t create that sound in the beginning, but it’s such a part of their whole makeup it can’t really be done without it.

Hahahahah well, you can go modeler or you can recreate Munky’s pedalboard-

Head’s ain’t too bad, though!

 

[JiveTurkey]

I have the Boss Whammy thing (at this moment at least), my Tremonti wah and the Behringturd SCF for up front. I'll gab a dirt for up front and a delay pedal for the loop.

This is all hinging no the idea that we will end up jamming. But as good excuse as any

 

[gearJunkie]

I'm of course also figuring out that a modeler is a much easier way of wrangling the effects needs of something like Korn or Deftones vs. amp and board (which is want I ultimately wanted to use this as an excuse for anyway)

VP4

 

[JiveTurkey]

VP4

I have an FM3 pretty much just sitting here so if anything; I'll probably hit that route up. If we ever actually jam

 

[Mikael Dez]

My little board is a VP4 for the effects loop/post preamp (chorus, delay, reverb and an extra block for idk what yet) and my SD-1 before the amp. Still playing with the NS-2 but I've either been lazy when I had time or I didn't have time when I wasn't lazy lol

 

[Whizzinby]

JT doing the lords work testing Amazon for something other than a pedal.

 

[metropolis_4]

Amazon baritone dice roll arrives tomorrow. If I like it; I am probably going to set it up in C# standard. Time will tell
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Is that an LTD MH-something?

 

[JiveTurkey]

ESP LTD MH-1000 Baritone, to be precise, @metropolis_4


Put it in the house over lunch after delivery because UPS and leaving it on the front sidewalk


Grumpy, 5 minute first impressions:

Positives---
1. Sleek AF
2. 27" scale is not an issue. Neck profile is great and super comfortable. It feels fairly chunky towards the neck joint area.
3. Plays very nice and not a big jump in neck perspective from 25.5 I am used to imo.

Initial negatives---
1. Reverse headstocks suck. They look cool but in actual usage for tuning; getting used to what seems like always grabbing the wrong tuning peg is going to take some work.
2. After playing with an actual guitar physically tuned to B; it isn't the Boss pitch shifting with that weird low end. It's the tuning. Too loosey goosey and sounding like a dubstep wobble for my tastes. That is the exact description for the low B, too; dub step wobble.
3. Active pickups suck. I thought it was the Fishmans but I don't like these EMGs either. Blech.

Ran it through the Boss XS-100 and tuned it up a step for LB riffs. Sounded fake but passable. Sort of a side quest to this overall discussion.

So the jury will decide over the weekend. Ideally; C# standard with a pickup swap to passives would be about perfection I'd say. Unironically I was kind of hoping for an out of the box slam dunk but it's me (ugh) and also the real gear world doesn't work that way either.

 

[DrewJD82]

ESP LTD MH-1000 Baritone, to be precise, @metropolis_4


Put it in the house over lunch after delivery because UPS and leaving it on the front sidewalk


Grumpy, 5 minute first impressions:

Positives---
1. Sleek AF
2. 27" scale is not an issue. Neck profile is great and super comfortable. It feels fairly chunky towards the neck joint area.
3. Plays very nice and not a big jump in neck perspective from 25.5 I am used to imo.

Initial negatives---
1. Reverse headstocks suck. They look cool but in actual usage for tuning; getting used to what seems like always grabbing the wrong tuning peg is going to take some work.
2. After playing with an actual guitar physically tuned to B; it isn't the Boss pitch shifting with that weird low end. It's the tuning. Too loosey goosey and sounding like a dubstep wobble for my tastes. That is the exact description for the low B, too; dub step wobble.
3. Active pickups suck. I thought it was the Fishmans but I don't like these EMGs either. Blech.

Ran it through the Boss XS-100 and tuned it up a step for LB riffs. Sounded fake but passable. Sort of a side quest to this overall discussion.

So the jury will decide over the weekend. Ideally; C# standard with a pickup swap to passives would be about perfection I'd say. Unironically I was kind of hoping for an out of the box slam dunk but it's me (ugh) and also the real gear world doesn't work that way either.

I’m surprised even with the extra length that low string is wobbly. I wonder what they used for a gauge? I’ve been using 10-59’s on my 7, which has been in drop A for a little over a year now and while I do need to lighten up my picking hand a bit but not terribly so.

I actually have a pack of Trivium signature strings 7-string set (they were like $5 on Amazon a couple weeks ago) that’s 10-63 I plan on putting on this weekend, I’ll let ya know how it goes.

Some of that wobble probably works well for the first 2 albums, before they had other people ensuring their guitars were setup to handle A standard.

 

[Mikael Dez]

ESP LTD MH-1000 Baritone, to be precise, @metropolis_4


Put it in the house over lunch after delivery because UPS and leaving it on the front sidewalk


Grumpy, 5 minute first impressions:

Positives---
1. Sleek AF
2. 27" scale is not an issue. Neck profile is great and super comfortable. It feels fairly chunky towards the neck joint area.
3. Plays very nice and not a big jump in neck perspective from 25.5 I am used to imo.

Initial negatives---
1. Reverse headstocks suck. They look cool but in actual usage for tuning; getting used to what seems like always grabbing the wrong tuning peg is going to take some work.
2. After playing with an actual guitar physically tuned to B; it isn't the Boss pitch shifting with that weird low end. It's the tuning. Too loosey goosey and sounding like a dubstep wobble for my tastes. That is the exact description for the low B, too; dub step wobble.
3. Active pickups suck. I thought it was the Fishmans but I don't like these EMGs either. Blech.

Ran it through the Boss XS-100 and tuned it up a step for LB riffs. Sounded fake but passable. Sort of a side quest to this overall discussion.

So the jury will decide over the weekend. Ideally; C# standard with a pickup swap to passives would be about perfection I'd say. Unironically I was kind of hoping for an out of the box slam dunk but it's me (ugh) and also the real gear world doesn't work that way either.

What gauge is that low B string? That may be why it's wobbly sounding.

Edit - according to Sweetwater it's a .62, which should be about 21 lbs of tension - the same you're getting out of your Ibby in standard with a .52. Hmmm.

 

[Whizzinby]

What are the gauges on the strings? I had to experiment to find what worked best tuned to Dropped B.

 

[DrewJD82]

Clearly there’s no bitchpicking on JT’s side of the fence!

 

[gearJunkie]

Reverse headstocks suck. They look cool but in actual usage for tuning; getting used to what seems like always grabbing the wrong tuning peg is going to take some work.