Anyone know this Warmoth build?

[83stratman]

Top load, battery box in the back.

 

[unix-guy]

Warmoth doesn't typically build guitars, they build necks and bodies... The ones they build that I've seen have a headstock logo.

 

[83stratman]

Warmoth doesn't typically build guitars, they build necks and bodies... The ones they build that I've seen have a headstock logo.

I didn't say Warmoth built it. I guess I can see how you took my question that way. Regardless of who built it, are you familier with it? That was the question.

 

[unix-guy]

It just looks like a Strat style body and neck with a fixed bridge

 

[Eagle]

Nobody is going to be .
I am extremely familiar with Warmoth parts though and can probably answer any question on it.
First thing to remember is Warmoth necks leave the factory with zero fret dressing beyond cutting the ends and a bevel. It is just that the manufacturing process is so consistent that they or often used like this.
The Problem with Warmoth builds is they are often specked and built by people with little or no experience and this can lead to poor quality detail work and ill advised components choice. In many cases dead spots and odd tone.

 

[laxu]

The Problem with Warmoth builds is they are often specked and built by people with little or no experience and this can lead to poor quality detail work and ill advised components choice. In many cases dead spots and odd tone.

How would you end up with dead spots? I thought those were caused usually by resonances, poorly seated frets and that sort of stuff?

 

[DrewJD82]

How would you end up with dead spots? I thought those were caused usually by resonances, poorly seated frets and that sort of stuff?

I’m curious if it’s going to be a result of too much pretty wood.

 

[BahamaDada]

That's a cool bridge. Reminds me of the Schaller 3D-6. Anybody know the name of that bridge?

3D-6 | 1212

Schaller 3D-6 – patentierter Flatmount-Steg für Gitarre Verstellbar in Höhe, Intonation und Saitenabstand: mit Rollen-Saitenauflagen. Die Rollensaitenauflagen minimieren zuverlässig das Reißen der Saiten bei gleicher Intonation und Stimmst…

schaller.info

 

[Eagle]

How would you end up with dead spots? I thought those were caused usually by resonances, poorly seated frets and that sort of stuff?

Nothing whatsoever to do with frets.
The issue is the neck and body resonance frequencies clash and cancel out or oscillate killing sustain in certain areas of the spectrum.
There are more considerations than looks with wood. Weight is still only part of the story.
Too many people just pick bodies on appearance.
Go and look on the Warmoth customer gallery ( if it’s still there. It’s like Homer Simpson’s guitar collection.

 

[Eagle]

A fret would have to be noticeably loose to cause an actual dead spot. The other fret issue that people mix up is fret out or a poor clearance over an uneven fret level. These sound different and are usually repairable easily with fret work .

 

[laxu]

Nothing whatsoever to do with frets.
The issue is the neck and body resonance frequencies clash and cancel out or oscillate killing sustain in certain areas of the spectrum.
There are more considerations than looks with wood. Weight is still only part of the story.
Too many people just pick bodies on appearance.
Go and look on the Warmoth customer gallery ( if it’s still there. It’s like Homer Simpson’s guitar collection.

How else are you supposed to pick them? Order multiple necks and bodies, see how they work together, return the rest?

That people pick terrible finish etc combinations is a separate problem.

 

[OrganicZed]

Nothing whatsoever to do with frets.
The issue is the neck and body resonance frequencies clash and cancel out or oscillate killing sustain in certain areas of the spectrum.
There are more considerations than looks with wood. Weight is still only part of the story.
Too many people just pick bodies on appearance.
Go and look on the Warmoth customer gallery ( if it’s still there. It’s like Homer Simpson’s guitar collection.

This is almost exactly what you see with Kiesel / Carvin builds. People select all of the most over the top options with little regard for how the instrument will look with all of those elements combined and the results are garish.

 

[83stratman]

That's a cool bridge. Reminds me of the Schaller 3D-6. Anybody know the name of that bridge?

3D-6 | 1212

Schaller 3D-6 – patentierter Flatmount-Steg für Gitarre Verstellbar in Höhe, Intonation und Saitenabstand: mit Rollen-Saitenauflagen. Die Rollensaitenauflagen minimieren zuverlässig das Reißen der Saiten bei gleicher Intonation und Stimmst…

schaller.info

Yea, I have been wondering about who made it. It is reminiscent of a Schaller for sure. I don't want to deal with removing the saddles to take off the bridge to take a peek under to see if there are any markings. Who ever built this one did a great setup/fret leveling on it, it plays great with super low action and spot on intonation. I had to buy it, it was so cheap!

 

[83stratman]

A fret would have to be noticeably loose to cause an actual dead spot. The other fret issue that people mix up is fret out or a poor clearance over an uneven fret level. These sound different and are usually repairable easily with fret work .

Just like I am realizing that I think I might be using the term "fret work" differently than everyone else. To me fret work has always been how level the frets are enabling real low action with no buzzing. I think the rest of the internet uses the term for how pretty fret ends are.

 

[83stratman]

This is almost exactly what you see with Kiesel / Carvin builds. People select all of the most over the top options with little regard for how the instrument will look with all of those elements combined and the results are garish.

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Too many knobs and switches! LOL. A guitar like that requires one knob and on switch!

 

[83stratman]

Who ever built my Warmoth stamped a serial number on the back of the head stock.

 

[Eagle]

How else are you supposed to pick them? Order multiple necks and bodies, see how they work together, return the rest?

That people pick terrible finish etc combinations is a separate problem.

Stick with predictable largely known quantities.

 

[Eagle]

Just like I am realizing that I think I might be using the term "fret work" differently than everyone else. To me fret work has always been how level the frets are enabling real low action with no buzzing. I think the rest of the internet uses the term for how pretty fret ends are.

It’s both.