An MIR analysis of real amp versus captures and profiles

[Orvillain]

BTW, I'd like to point something out:

We are better at detecting differences in lower frequencies than higher frequencies.

Since this is true, it means it is even more important than I ever considered, to make sure you get the low frequencies correct when designing these algorithms.

There is a bit of a fallacy lurking around that the guitar is a mid-range instrument. It isn't. It's a broadband shotgun of noise, shaped by filters. That needs to be the mentality when going into amp modelling and capturing, IMHO.

 

[Whizzinby]

When I dial in a tone I like, I never trust that opinion until I have a graph to confirm it.

Cool info. Very interesting.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

While I do understand why people get bored by graphs, for the enginerds among us, this stuff is very interesting. If not for hair-splitting analyses and continual refinements to existing methods, we’d still be at the POD bean.

Kudos to IK. Their competition was experienced and formidable, but they managed to equal or better them with TONEX.

 

[Orvillain]

If not for hair-splitting analyses and continual refinements to existing methods, we’d still be at the POD bean.

Absolutely this!!

 

[Fireproof]

Really cool and interesting. I like data and graphs, not just because I’m an engineer by education, but mainly because I don’t always trust mg own ears lol.

 

[bigcupholder]

I like seeing the plots but I ultimately find the idea of profiles/captures unappealing because it's a bigger rabbit hole than IRs. Unless you have gear you want to profile yourself, it seems like a daunting task to consistently find good captures.

 

[Mongillo19]

I like seeing the plots but I ultimately find the idea of profiles/captures unappealing because it's a bigger rabbit hole than IRs. Unless you have gear you want to profile yourself, it seems like a daunting task to consistently find good captures.

Couldn't agree more. I had spent so much on profile packs....more so than IRs

 

[Whizzinby]

I like seeing the plots but I ultimately find the idea of profiles/captures unappealing because it's a bigger rabbit hole than IRs. Unless you have gear you want to profile yourself, it seems like a daunting task to consistently find good captures.

That was my experience with the QC. It was just so easy to setup a model, that going capture hunting became somewhat counterproductive if you just wanted to, ya know, play guitar. The model count on the device was pretty small, so I got the appeal of looking for new content, but I just had to cycle through so many poorly made captures, or caps I wanted to tweak beyond their capability, that it became a waste of time.

 

[Orvillain]

IMHO captures work best when you take them for yourself.

 

[Mongillo19]

IMHO captures work best when you take them for yourself.

I have to imagine that was the initial plan for the Kemper? I wonder if they ever thought selling profile packs would be a thing.

 

[Orvillain]

I have to imagine that was the initial plan for the Kemper? I wonder if they ever thought selling profile packs would be a thing.

Well Kemper themselves do not sell profile packs do they???

 

[Mongillo19]

Well Kemper themselves do not sell profile packs do they???

True! I wonder what their thoughts are on the topic

 

[JT]

True! I wonder what their thoughts are on the topic

CK below