ABY Pedal with no signal loss?

[Eagle]

Just taken a picture of my Fender which for the last few months has been plugged into my Electro Harmonix Mig 50.
So I could switch between both inputs .
Works and sounds excellent
They are not expensive new or used.
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That’s fine if you don’t need isolation. But if you gig you won’t know until it’s too late.

 

[Sascha Franck]

No isolation a crappy switch

Oh, so you have inspected the pedal? Cool, which brand is the switch? And when did you examin it?

 

[Dave Lewis]

That’s fine if you don’t need isolation. But if you gig you won’t know until it’s too late.

That’s why I have one of these but I can’t find it at the moment so My son must be using it.

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/orange-amp-detonator-buffered-aby-switcher/128421

 

[Eagle]

Oh, so you have inspected the pedal? Cool, which brand is the switch? And when did you examin it?

Alpha you can tell from the picture if you’re used to seeing them , the better ones are clearly different and there aren’t many manufacturers. Most companies use theses until you get to the bespoke switches made for specific products. The gig rig and Lehle switches are custom made for them and are fundamentally different..

I get it you like doing it on the cheap but don’t kid yourself that there’s no difference. It’s not the high end companies making money, in fact companies like Gig rig have a lower margin than most budget brands. The ticket price is rarely an accurate representation of value for the end user.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Alpha you can tell from the picture if you’re used to seeing them

You should possibly plan a new career as a magician.

 

[Eagle]

You should possibly plan a new career as a magician.

You really are tedious. Different brands are subtly different in shape and proportions and when there are very few suppliers of suitable replacement parts you can quite quickly identify them just by this. This is an industry standard generic switch and it’s the most commonly failed part on any pedal I have replaced hundreds over the years.
It comes in mostly three pole latching in pedals.

 

[Eagle]

The common two brands

If you can’t see the difference .
These day and with budget it’s almost always the bottom one. And the other brands are even more different . Even on different pole arrangements the metalwork is the same.

 

[Eagle]

This whole argument reminds me of a couple of friends of mine having a heated debate in the pub over two watches. One is a jeweller and the other an electronics engineer. Needless to say the jeweller has a collection of vintage watches and was showing us his latest acquisition, an Omega from the 60s. The engineer was proudly wearing a disposable £5 digital watch that he had dismantled to replace the none replaceable battery stating that it was infact as good or superior to the Omega because it was more accurate and only cost £5. The next time we all met up the engineer wasn’t wearing it and it transpired that the strap had broken and he had to throw it away.
Ultimately everyone must decide whether increase in quality both mechanical and sonic are warranted for their use . And how sturdy is sturdy enough for their application. For me if the best available is easily affordable there is no reason to not buy it .

 

[Sascha Franck]

These day and with budget it’s almost always the bottom one.

So? I have tons of them in plenty of pedals. They never fail.

 

[Eagle]

So? I have tons of them in plenty of pedals. They never fail.

Are we supposed to just “trust me bro “ they never fail.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Are we supposed to just “trust me bro “ they never fail.

Of course. Because in my case, they never even just once did. How could I even prove it? Want me to take a picture of a working switch?

 

[Eagle]

Of course. Because in my case, they never even just once did. How could I even prove it? Want me to take a picture of a working switch?

The isolation (missing) and the audio quality not to mention the switch noise are still subpar . We get it you like cheap shit.

 

[Sascha Franck]

The isolation (missing) and the audio quality not to mention the switch noise are still subpar

There's no switch noise on my units.

 

[Eagle]

There's no switch noise on my units.

These $2 switches are the best

 

[Dave Lewis]

Budget pedals doesn’t always mean shit.
I’ve got some terrific pedals that only cost £13.00 each new.

 

[dronerstone]

Just taken a picture of my Fender which for the last few months has been plugged into my Electro Harmonix Mig 50.
So I could switch between both inputs .
Works and sounds excellent
They are not expensive new or used.
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I had this for a few hours, before I went back and got a refund. Don't remember specifics, but iirc I wasn't a fan of what it did to my overall sound when placed very early in the chain.

Nowadays I use an MXR ABY box, might not be the best of the bunch, but gets the job done if a workaround is not an option.

Ymmv

 

[Eagle]

Budget pedals doesn’t always mean shit.
I’ve got some terrific pedals that only cost £13.00 each new.

Agreed but no isolation is a problem in many situations. Also a regular mechanism in a latching switch is a probability of future noise . You can put a good sounding cheap pedal in a loop and it’s going to be fine but keep it well clear of the main signal path and don’t rely on it for sonic transparency and give it a core function. Asking for trouble.

 

[Sascha Franck]

These $2 switches are the best

Said noone ever.

 

[Eagle]

Said noone ever.

 

[maguchi]

I been using a Morley ABY Pro for a couple years now. I can't detect any signal loss or change in tone with it. And it's dead silent when clicking on the footswitch at volume.