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You were lucky.My 92 Stealth XL had the JT-580. Worked well.
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You were lucky.My 92 Stealth XL had the JT-580. Worked well.
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there's A LOT that you got wrong in this thread too, though:You’re so wrong I assumed that you either were not involved or too young. I now understand that you were on a desert island.![]()
I know I remember the forms you could send them a Floyd and they would put your order on the bottom of the pile I was on the Jackson stand at the uk trade show in 87. I know exactly what happened.there's A LOT that you got wrong in this thread too, though:
1- Jackson Custom Shop did not "force" you to use the JT6. There was A LOT they could do as "Special Instruction" through a dealer here in the US. You'd fill out the custom order form, they'd send it in and you'd get a (very expensive) quote. That included Floyd Trems, some body shapes not listed in the catalog, different pickups etc pretty much the ONLY thing you couldn't get was strat heads.
2- it was VERY common for players in smaller bands to get the MIJ Charvels and have them modded with the real Floyd and different pickups etc... every shop around my area knew how to do it. Like I said, if you wanted a neckthrough guitar, the Model 6 street'd in the US for $800-ish. You'd get that, take it to the shop for a Floyd and pickups and ended up with a solid NT guitar for less than half of the cost of the Soloist. Do you think that wasn't popular?
Same with amps, you'd get the 800 then get the loop, gain mod put on etc... modding guitars and amps was pretty much a way of life back then lol Hell, people were even butchering old Fenders with Floyds, let alone something as simple as replacing a Jt6, stock specs were hardly a deterrent to anyone.
3- Ibanez did not eat anybody's lunch. Very few pros switched to Ibanez. Vai and Satch were the main guys and then the Shrapnel guys. But as far as players major in bands, very few - if any - switched to RGs. ESP took FAR more artists from Jackson than Ibanez.
Perhaps the UK market was different. Here the wait time wasn't longer if you ordered a Floyd (you'd have to buy and send them the part but most dealers sold you the trem and sent it along with your order). It was more expensive, but it wouldn't take longer than the normal wait time.I know I remember the forms you could send them a Floyd and they would put your order on the bottom of the pile I was on the Jackson stand at the uk trade show in 87. I know exactly what happened.
You do know I have been a full time tech for nearly 35 years. And I was part time before that . I fitted many with Floyd’s myself but the nut was an issue. Grover made a slightly different neck for a Floyd nut.
I suspect that is the difference we are talking about. The UK distribution was JHS at the time and they weren’t exactly in tune with the product.Perhaps the UK market was different. Here the wait time wasn't longer if you ordered a Floyd (you'd have to buy and send them the part but most dealers sold you the trem and sent it along with your order). It was more expensive, but it wouldn't take longer than the normal wait time.
My local shop used to do the Floyd mod with a Kahler locking nut (not the string lock), which was narrower and required less modifications to the headstock. I have one like that here. That worked fine and looked like it could've been stock. They'd do Floyd nuts too but it looked a bit weird because of the depth of the nut. It also made it harder to access the truss rod.
Point me towards the Charvels with chunky C neck profiles please, I'm on the hunt!You mean the Fender Strats with the chunky C neck profile masquerading as a Charvel product from 40 years ago ? not hardly but we all have our opines.
The foot print is the same on this. I’m not sure how you have that on without an overhang.Here's some pictures of my Model 3 with the Kahler locking nut conversion:
Front:
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Side view:
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The Floyd nut would hang and make the truss rod adjustment a real pain, but the Kahler is a pretty clean way to do this and can pass for stock (except that I just noticed I am missing 2 screws!!! )..
Different model maybe? Mine is top mounted with screws....View attachment 39579
It’s exactly the same depth as a Floyd nut .
Either the neck was built with the space or the fingerboard was trimmed. It can’t be that because it would not play in tune. Elaborate???
Thing is that the Floyd base plate for the locking nut is like 3mm longer than the 5153 Kahler lick but since it's behind the nut isn't quite comparable.The foot print is the same on this. I’m not sure how you have that on without an overhang.
The neck was made for it.Different model maybe? Mine is top mounted with screws....
Other than that, I'm not sure. I'll see if I can find a Floyd nut here and do a side by side comparison. The fretboard was definitely not trimmed, the guitar plays in tune just fine.
yeah it seems that way. Interesting!The neck was made for it.
I might hallucinate this but I seem to remember them making an angled shelf fir thatnir maybe it was the builder I used to hang with that just did it on tilt back headstocks...The neck was made for it.