Valeton versus Axe FX

[Frodebro]

This was posted over at TOP, but it’s too damn good not to share here.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Begs the question: Did anyone actually suggest the GP-5 could rival an Axe FX III in terms of sound?

 

[Frodebro]

Begs the question: Did anyone actually suggest the GP-5 could rival an Axe FX III in terms of sound?

I’m sure that somewhere out there is somebody who sincerely believes it.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Am I the only one who listened to 3 minutes of crickets? Kinda relaxing.

 

[Frodebro]

Am I the only one who listened to 3 minutes of crickets? Kinda relaxing.

Whatever gets you through the night, it’s all right.

 

[Chocol8]

There are a lot of people in the guitar forum and youtube world who I swear must be both stone deaf and dumber than the average Labrador retriever.

 

[Frodebro]

There are a lot of people in the guitar forum and youtube world who I swear must be both stone deaf and dumber than the average Labrador retriever.

Humanity has been in a steady decline ever since steel tipped lawn darts were banned. Used to be that the herd was self culling.

 

[PorcinePicker]

Well played, well played.

 

[Orvillain]

Am I the only one who listened to 3 minutes of crickets? Kinda relaxing.

Okay, Ed Gein.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Okay, Ed Gein.

I know nothing about him, except he's a killer with his own Netflix movie.

EDIT

Ew, WTF? I just read his Wikipedia page. Fucking nasty

 

[Frodebro]

I know nothing about him, except he's a killer with his own Netflix movie.

EDIT

Ew, WTF? I just read his Wikipedia page. Fucking nasty

That’s what generations worth of inbreeding will do.

 

[Tito83]

It's funny to think that if someone did that with a tube amp and the Axe-fx some here would be throwing a fit.

 

[BenIfin]

... and dumber than the average Labrador retriever.

Hey. Every forum has its boundaries and limits ...... here, don't knock dog's is one of them ! :)

 

[LiCoRn]

I highly suspect that the OP's video is a nod/response to the following video ;-)
spoiler alert: no cricket sound here ... well it depends what sounds like crickets for you

 

[Sascha Franck]

Well, seems to be more like answering the question "can you make the FM3 sound as bad as the GP-5?"

Seriously, while some of the amps in the GP are astonishingly good, most aren't. The drives are "servicable" at best and act in no way as *any* real drive pedal, let alone the ones they're supposed to model.
Whatever, if you want to get the most out of the GP, you need to look for some NAM captures. They work pretty well even with that additional import conversion on top.

On a sidenote: I have a kinda feeling that some of the modeling in the GPs isn't better because these guys have no taste. Sure, you would think that's not what things are about when you go for accurate modeling - but apparently any decisions you could still make with your ears take a wrong turn in Valeton land.
Why am I suspecting that? Well, there's IRs and captures preloaded on the unit - and they're all pretty awful IMO. Same goes for the factory presets.
Still an incredible pedal for the price - but comparing it to things such as whatever FAS units has got to be a joke.

 

[laxu]

Well, seems to be more like answering the question "can you make the FM3 sound as bad as the GP-5?"

Seriously, while some of the amps in the GP are astonishingly good, most aren't. The drives are "servicable" at best and act in no way as *any* real drive pedal, let alone the ones they're supposed to model.
Whatever, if you want to get the most out of the GP, you need to look for some NAM captures. They work pretty well even with that additional import conversion on top.

On a sidenote: I have a kinda feeling that some of the modeling in the GPs isn't better because these guys have no taste. Sure, you would think that's not what things are about when you go for accurate modeling - but apparently any decisions you could still make with your ears take a wrong turn in Valeton land.
Why am I suspecting that? Well, there's IRs and captures preloaded on the unit - and they're all pretty awful IMO. Same goes for the factory presets.
Still an incredible pedal for the price - but comparing it to things such as whatever FAS units has got to be a joke.

It'd be interesting to know what the relationship with Hotone vs Valeton is. Same company, but are they totally separate teams that don't work together at all?

Because I feel Hotone did a pretty good job with most of their effects on the Ampero 2 Stomp. The drives were a mixed bag between "I can't tell any relevant difference between the real pedal" and "that's totally wrong". But the delays and reverbs were solid and modulations fine if a bit unremarkable.

 

[Sascha Franck]

It'd be interesting to know what the relationship with Hotone vs Valeton is. Same company, but are they totally separate teams that don't work together at all?

No idea how much ressources they actually share.

Because I feel Hotone did a pretty good job with most of their effects on the Ampero 2 Stomp. The drives were a mixed bag between "I can't tell any relevant difference between the real pedal" and "that's totally wrong". But the delays and reverbs were solid and modulations fine if a bit unremarkable.

I think the Amperos are much better units overall, but with the GPs, the form factor, functionality and price relation is just great.

 

[Los-D]

But the delays and reverbs were solid and modulations fine if a bit unremarkable.

Agreed. Did not like the modulations very much but delay/reverb were definitely usable. YMMV