US Deluxe Reverb + "Mild" Drive Pedal = what took me so freakin' long ?

[BenIfin]

OK. This Amp is a revelation to me.

Excluding Hard Rock / Metal .... is there anything a mild drive pedal - like a Timmy or Bluesbreaker - and a US Deluxe Reverb cant do ?

In all seriousness .... clean - crunchy clean - edge of breakup - breakup - rock'n'roll - rock - "plexi" / "acdc" level rock.

It is just ridiculous - I always thought it was just like a Fender Twin - one trick pony - more fool me.

I know I'm clearly very late to the party, but just one good drive and this Amp is just so f*cking easy to dial in pretty much anything you want.

Anyway .... happy rant over :)

B.T.W => ^^ This was all with my FM3 ^^ The Stomp is just as "good" all be it has a slightly different low-mid push-emphasis going on - personally I slightly prefer the FM3 version of the Timmy+US Dlx Rev "vibe" - but am/would be stoked with either.

 

[Lele]

Timmy is a "transparent" distortion pedal essentially designed to work in perfect synergy with amplifiers like Marshall or Tweed, which are rich in mid frequencies. In theory, it’s not the ideal match for mid-scooped amplifiers (like Twin or Deluxe).
Have you ever tried an OD pedal like the Zendrive (which features a "soft clipping" circuit) or the KWB (with a "hard clipping" circuit)?

The Zendrive ("Dhyana Drive"), with its TubeScreamer/SD-1-style circuit, enhances the mids that Fender amps typically lack. However, it’s slightly more refined and provides subtle asymmetric clipping, which results in more even harmonics—especially an octave above. The "Voice" control is a bit tricky, as it acts as both a bass-cut filter and a gain booster at the same time.

On the other hand, the KWB (which is based on the DOD250/Fulltone OCD circuit) offers an actual parameter to adjust asymmetric clipping and features a full EQ section, allowing you to emphasize the mids if needed.

And as you already found out, pushing a little the amp input with the pedals in front (adjusted over the unity) works very well with US Deluxe Reverb!

 

[BenIfin]

Timmy is a "transparent" distortion pedal essentially designed to work in perfect synergy with amplifiers like Marshall or Tweed, which are rich in mid frequencies. In theory, it’s not the ideal match for mid-scooped amplifiers (like Twin or Deluxe).
Have you ever tried an OD pedal like the Zendrive (which features a "soft clipping" circuit) or the KWB (with a "hard clipping" circuit)?

The Zendrive ("Dhyana Drive"), with its TubeScreamer/SD-1-style circuit, enhances the mids that Fender amps typically lack. However, it’s slightly more refined and provides subtle asymmetric clipping, which results in more even harmonics—especially an octave above. The "Voice" control is a bit tricky, as it acts as both a bass-cut filter and a gain booster at the same time.

On the other hand, the KWB (which is based on the DOD250/Fulltone OCD circuit) offers an actual parameter to adjust asymmetric clipping and features a full EQ section, allowing you to emphasize the mids if needed.

And as you already found out, pushing a little the amp input with the pedals in front (adjusted over the unity) works very well with US Deluxe Reverb!

Thanks Lele !

I will try those pedals - from memory I *think* there is a version of them in both the FM3 and Helix.

The key - for me - has been keeping the MV on the Dlx between 4.0 <-> 4.5 and driving the gain up to around ~8 .... lower for different tones of course.

The Timmy is running quite low and its low and hi cuts is very musical.

All the best and thanks again.

 

[laxu]

Super Reverb is superior.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Super Reverb is superior.

It has the mids. It has the crunch. It has the clean.

It’s the better version of the deluxe.

I’ve never picked another amp than that one since that last update. Always fall back on it until I decided to just make it my main amp.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Amazing how much better something sounds after you measure it and find it has low levels of aliasing

 

[JiveTurkey]

Amazing how much better something sounds after you measure it and find it has low levels of aliasing

 

[banned]

Timmy is a "transparent" distortion pedal essentially designed to work in perfect synergy with amplifiers like Marshall or Tweed, which are rich in mid frequencies. In theory, it’s not the ideal match for mid-scooped amplifiers (like Twin or Deluxe).
Have you ever tried an OD pedal like the Zendrive (which features a "soft clipping" circuit) or the KWB (with a "hard clipping" circuit)?

The Zendrive ("Dhyana Drive"), with its TubeScreamer/SD-1-style circuit, enhances the mids that Fender amps typically lack. However, it’s slightly more refined and provides subtle asymmetric clipping, which results in more even harmonics—especially an octave above. The "Voice" control is a bit tricky, as it acts as both a bass-cut filter and a gain booster at the same time.

On the other hand, the KWB (which is based on the DOD250/Fulltone OCD circuit) offers an actual parameter to adjust asymmetric clipping and features a full EQ section, allowing you to emphasize the mids if needed.

And as you already found out, pushing a little the amp input with the pedals in front (adjusted over the unity) works very well with US Deluxe Reverb!

Super informative post.

No wonder I like the KWB SO much - I Love the DOD250 as well; which is the greatest thing into a driven amp. But KWB works with clean amps as well.

 

[Lele]

No wonder I like the KWB SO much - I Love the DOD250 as well; which is the greatest thing into a driven amp. But KWB works with clean amps as well.

The KWB circuit is exactly like DOD250, but with additional eq controls, and with the options of different diodes (tied to ground = "hard clipping").
I also like "hard clipping" ODs most times, and the KWB with both LED diodes, and high level of asymmetry is often my favorite OD pedal.

 

[jay mitchell]

OK. This Amp is a revelation to me.

Your entire posting history, here and elsewhere, is full of "revelations" and "epiphanies" that you boldly proclaim. Perhaps you'd benefit from learning to moderate your, umm, enthusiasm. It's worn pretty thin. Just sayin'....

 

[fr8_trane]

Timmy is a "transparent" distortion pedal essentially designed to work in perfect synergy with amplifiers like Marshall or Tweed, which are rich in mid frequencies. In theory, it’s not the ideal match for mid-scooped amplifiers (like Twin or Deluxe).
Have you ever tried an OD pedal like the Zendrive (which features a "soft clipping" circuit) or the KWB (with a "hard clipping" circuit)?

The Zendrive ("Dhyana Drive"), with its TubeScreamer/SD-1-style circuit, enhances the mids that Fender amps typically lack. However, it’s slightly more refined and provides subtle asymmetric clipping, which results in more even harmonics—especially an octave above. The "Voice" control is a bit tricky, as it acts as both a bass-cut filter and a gain booster at the same time.

On the other hand, the KWB (which is based on the DOD250/Fulltone OCD circuit) offers an actual parameter to adjust asymmetric clipping and features a full EQ section, allowing you to emphasize the mids if needed.

And as you already found out, pushing a little the amp input with the pedals in front (adjusted over the unity) works very well with US Deluxe Reverb!

Hey all, long time TGP'er and this is my first post here. Anyway... I know Paul C designed the timmy to boost his Marshall but I disagree that it doesnt work well with Fender amps. I used a real timmy into a real deluxe reverb for years (as well as a '68 Bassman head which I wish I still had). Its perfect for a base OD sound that makes a DR on 2 or 3 sound like a DR on 4 or 5. Perfect rhythm crunch tones all day long. THEN I would stack a mid forward OD (usually a Klone) after the Timmy adding a volume, gain and mid boost for leads.

I duplicated this rig as my main clean tone through various iterations of the Line 6 family (currently a Helix LT). For a few years I used the Deluxe normal model as I found it to be the best to my ears until the Grammatico Dumble replaced it for about a year. I preferred the more dynamic response of the Dumble clean tone. The Dumble has been replaced with the new Super Reverb model which has the dynamic response of the Dumble but I prefer the Super's EQ curve. I use either the Helix Klon or the Helix Zendrive as my mid boost for leads. The klon is cleaner and more dynamic and the zendrive is fatter with more sustain. I like having options.

 

[metropolis_4]

Hey all, long time TGP'er and this is my first post here. Anyway... I know Paul C designed the timmy to boost his Marshall but I disagree that it doesnt work well with Fender amps. I used a real timmy into a real deluxe reverb for years (as well as a '68 Bassman head which I wish I still had). Its perfect for a base OD sound that makes a DR on 2 or 3 sound like a DR on 4 or 5. Perfect rhythm crunch tones all day long. THEN I would stack a mid forward OD (usually a Klone) after the Timmy adding a volume, gain and mid boost for leads.

I duplicated this rig as my main clean tone through various iterations of the Line 6 family (currently a Helix LT). For a few years I used the Deluxe normal model as I found it to be the best to my ears until the Grammatico Dumble replaced it for about a year. I preferred the more dynamic response of the Dumble clean tone. The Dumble has been replaced with the new Super Reverb model which has the dynamic response of the Dumble but I prefer the Super's EQ curve. I use either the Helix Klon or the Helix Zendrive as my mid boost for leads. The klon is cleaner and more dynamic and the zendrive is fatter with more sustain. I like having options.

I’ve had good results using a Timmy with a Deluxe Reverb as well. I think the EQ of the Timmy makes it extremely versatile to pair with many different amps

 

[EOengineer]

If you want to do the tubescreamer thing and all you have is the Timmy, you can achieve the TS mid hump by heavy combined use of the bass and treble cuts, then crank the pedal level up and dial the drive to taste.

 

[Richard_G]

I too like to use my real Timmy with Fender amps - either alone or stacked with a Tumnus Ge Deluxe after it, and often with a Sex Drive in front.

 

[dk_ace]

Hey all, long time TGP'er and this is my first post here. Anyway... I know Paul C designed the timmy to boost his Marshall but I disagree that it doesnt work well with Fender amps. I used a real timmy into a real deluxe reverb for years (as well as a '68 Bassman head which I wish I still had). Its perfect for a base OD sound that makes a DR on 2 or 3 sound like a DR on 4 or 5. Perfect rhythm crunch tones all day long. THEN I would stack a mid forward OD (usually a Klone) after the Timmy adding a volume, gain and mid boost for leads.

I duplicated this rig as my main clean tone through various iterations of the Line 6 family (currently a Helix LT). For a few years I used the Deluxe normal model as I found it to be the best to my ears until the Grammatico Dumble replaced it for about a year. I preferred the more dynamic response of the Dumble clean tone. The Dumble has been replaced with the new Super Reverb model which has the dynamic response of the Dumble but I prefer the Super's EQ curve. I use either the Helix Klon or the Helix Zendrive as my mid boost for leads. The klon is cleaner and more dynamic and the zendrive is fatter with more sustain. I like having options.

Good to see ya here!

I agree, the Timmy works pretty well with fender amps too. I don’t get the people that say it’s transparent though, the mid shift doesn’t sound the least bit transparent to me. I love the bass and treble controls. I ultimately found that I preferred a nobels or a KoT in front of a fender, but I can be happy with a Timmy any day. If I could only have one OD to use with a variety of amps, it’s probably a Timmy or a Nobels.

D

 

[dk_ace]

Your entire posting history, here and elsewhere, is full of "revelations" and "epiphanies" that you boldly proclaim. Perhaps you'd benefit from learning to moderate your, umm, enthusiasm. It's worn pretty thin. Just sayin'....

I just discovered this cool amp some old people call a “Plexi” and it totally rules!!!! What a revelation!!!

D

 

[holoholo]

Hey all, long time TGP'er and this is my first post here. Anyway... I know Paul C designed the timmy to boost his Marshall but I disagree that it doesnt work well with Fender amps. I used a real timmy into a real deluxe reverb for years (as well as a '68 Bassman head which I wish I still had). Its perfect for a base OD sound that makes a DR on 2 or 3 sound like a DR on 4 or 5. Perfect rhythm crunch tones all day long. THEN I would stack a mid forward OD (usually a Klone) after the Timmy adding a volume, gain and mid boost for leads.

I duplicated this rig as my main clean tone through various iterations of the Line 6 family (currently a Helix LT). For a few years I used the Deluxe normal model as I found it to be the best to my ears until the Grammatico Dumble replaced it for about a year. I preferred the more dynamic response of the Dumble clean tone. The Dumble has been replaced with the new Super Reverb model which has the dynamic response of the Dumble but I prefer the Super's EQ curve. I use either the Helix Klon or the Helix Zendrive as my mid boost for leads. The klon is cleaner and more dynamic and the zendrive is fatter with more sustain. I like having options.

I’m glad you made it over. I enjoyed your posts at TGP.

 

[Tito83]

Your entire posting history, here and elsewhere, is full of "revelations" and "epiphanies" that you boldly proclaim. Perhaps you'd benefit from learning to moderate your, umm, enthusiasm. It's worn pretty thin. Just sayin'....

You're just a real peach.

 

[BenIfin]

Timmy is a "transparent" distortion pedal essentially designed to work in perfect synergy with amplifiers like Marshall or Tweed, which are rich in mid frequencies. In theory, it’s not the ideal match for mid-scooped amplifiers (like Twin or Deluxe).
Have you ever tried an OD pedal like the Zendrive (which features a "soft clipping" circuit) or the KWB (with a "hard clipping" circuit)?

The Zendrive ("Dhyana Drive"), with its TubeScreamer/SD-1-style circuit, enhances the mids that Fender amps typically lack. However, it’s slightly more refined and provides subtle asymmetric clipping, which results in more even harmonics—especially an octave above. The "Voice" control is a bit tricky, as it acts as both a bass-cut filter and a gain booster at the same time.

On the other hand, the KWB (which is based on the DOD250/Fulltone OCD circuit) offers an actual parameter to adjust asymmetric clipping and features a full EQ section, allowing you to emphasize the mids if needed.

And as you already found out, pushing a little the amp input with the pedals in front (adjusted over the unity) works very well with US Deluxe Reverb!

Thanks Lele for your advice.

I tried the Zendrive - didn't like it.

Then I tried the Fulltone OCD - as a result I've swapped out the Timmy for this - its just gives me a but fuller midrange and a touch more "grind" in the mids.

Many thanks !

 

[BenIfin]

Your entire posting history, here and elsewhere, is full of "revelations" and "epiphanies" that you boldly proclaim. Perhaps you'd benefit from learning to moderate your, umm, enthusiasm. It's worn pretty thin. Just sayin'....

Thank you for telling me how to post. I will from now on remember to run my drafts by you first so that they meet your standards of acceptable positivism / negativism, so I have your stamp of credibility approval prior to participating in this public forum. It is clear my posting history is not in line with professional musical standards. It shan't happen again. Just sayin' ....